tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post115894090551697577..comments2023-11-05T03:20:46.695-05:00Comments on The Ostroy Report: Is Bush's Terror Tour Working? New NY Times/CBS News Poll Shows Some Disturbing TrendsThe Ostroy Reporthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04955421147082736335noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159365518521197272006-09-27T09:58:00.000-04:002006-09-27T09:58:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159462239650028282006-09-28T12:50:00.000-04:002006-09-28T12:50:00.000-04:00Your refusal to address the content of my post pro...Your refusal to address the content of my post proves you have no point.<BR/><BR/>I'm willing to bet that you are a taxpayer. I'm also willing to bet that you kept your tax break for yourself.<BR/><BR/>I also wonder why you hold such animosity for those who are more successful than you. Are you jealous of them? Do you feel entitled to their success?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159453777348703912006-09-28T10:29:00.000-04:002006-09-28T10:29:00.000-04:00Larry, your diatribe proves my point. I rest my c...Larry, your diatribe proves my point. I rest my case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159450972501369722006-09-28T09:42:00.000-04:002006-09-28T09:42:00.000-04:00"Republicans like to rob the poor and give to the ..."Republicans like to rob the poor and give to the rich with their tax plans"<BR/><BR/><BR/>How do republicans rob the poor and 'give' to the rich with their tax plans?? The 'poor' don't pay any taxes at all. The 'poor' get all their government services for free - paid for by the top 50% of American taxpayers. The 'poor' are 'poor' because they continously make bad decisions. By the way, MOST of the 'poor' rise up and above the poverty line. Only a very small percentage of the 'poor' actually stay below the poverty line.<BR/><BR/><BR/>YOU are either in the 'poor' classification OR you are a tax payer. If you are a tax payer, you got a tax break from Bush's tax cuts. Did you keep YOUR taxbreak or did you give it all to the 'poor' ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159420328199061942006-09-28T01:12:00.000-04:002006-09-28T01:12:00.000-04:009:38AM Do you know what Bloom's Taxonomy illustra...9:38AM Do you know what Bloom's Taxonomy illustrates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159395659040175642006-09-27T18:20:00.000-04:002006-09-27T18:20:00.000-04:00Of course you do, Larry. That's what you understa...Of course you do, Larry. That's what you understand. For once, you have not written one of your repetitive rebuttals. By the way I think a Republican wrote that phrase because he doesn't want to even read the word FAIR near Taxes. You remember -- Republicans like to rob the poor and give to the rich with their tax plans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159381380952714452006-09-27T14:23:00.000-04:002006-09-27T14:23:00.000-04:00"Anonymous said... Shove your FairTax."That's what..."Anonymous said... <BR/>Shove your FairTax."<BR/><BR/><BR/>That's what I call an intellectual response from a Democrat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159367314503745902006-09-27T10:28:00.000-04:002006-09-27T10:28:00.000-04:00Shove your FairTax.Shove your FairTax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159364313043082082006-09-27T09:38:00.000-04:002006-09-27T09:38:00.000-04:0011:33 You seem to suggest that education, in the ...11:33 You seem to suggest that education, in the formal sense, covers all human behavior. Of course it does not. The examples you mention in defense of your argument have nothing to do with education but with morals, values, ethics and character. Education is not an end all and be all but it is the way we learn to speak, think, discern effectively. Of course, we are informally educated and must consider that Bush was educated by his father, mother, church, friends to be deceitful and mean. We LEARN and are influenced from everybody and everything. Then, too, genetics have to be considered in that all are not born with the same level of potential intellectually, physically; and, all are not born into favorable environments for acceptable progress. You don't take that into consideration when you whine that everybody doesn't pull himself up by his own bootstraps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159327985058663112006-09-26T23:33:00.000-04:002006-09-26T23:33:00.000-04:00Application of knowledge, NO MATTER how it is obta...Application of knowledge, NO MATTER how it is obtained is what drives success. Whining about poor education is moot. Bush has a lst class education (probably bought by daddy) on paper and still he destroys everything he touches. How many failed businesses? How many prisoners executed in TX? Now a country struggles to get out from under some criminal mismanagement by a bunch of idiots. Rice will even lie, despite her PHD, - her comments today were refuted by the 9/11 Commission Report - Bloom's Taxonomy does not apply to these yo-yos. But, the GOP does rely on the lack of education, Rove has even mentioned it in an interview for New Yorker Mag. a few years ago. Now, for the psychological side of this - Are you in denial if you still believe that Bush is a good man? Synthesis and application of information is what it is about and we still have 37% to 40% depending on which poll you believe that still are unable to figure it out. That's the scary part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159311418682580842006-09-26T18:56:00.000-04:002006-09-26T18:56:00.000-04:009:58 You yourself need further education. Of cour...9:58 You yourself need further education. Of course the "wolf" children had their innate intelligence. But they learned to speak only after being discovered by humans who TAUGHT them. And, you prove my point that effective self-determination is impossible without education by pointing out that the South has poor schools and therefore an uneducated population because the schools aren't well-financed and cannot effectively educate children. No one blamed ignorance on a lack of INTELLIGENCE, but a lack of EDUCATION. Intelligence and education and ignornace are not synonymous. However, a brain cannot function to full potential if it is not trained - thus the wolf example which is extreme but proves the point. You will see that 2:53 has had a very poor education and thus makes very poor observations and draws erroneous conclusions. He probably has normal intelligence. Yet, he's screamed the same point made above so many times and so many here have answered him that I'll let it go. He doesn't get the facts and think with an open and logical mind. He seems afraid that he'll have to help someone else,which of course could be psychological and not a matter of education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159302559236684862006-09-26T16:29:00.000-04:002006-09-26T16:29:00.000-04:00Anonymous 2:53,"income tax reductions on every tax...Anonymous 2:53,<BR/><BR/>"income tax reductions on every taxpaper." is NOT only for the wealthiest one percent of the population. It is for EVERY TAXPAYER.<BR/><BR/>Taxpayers are the wealthiest 50% of America, the other half of Americans + illegal aliens get government services for free.<BR/><BR/>The top 50%, who pay ALL the taxes, deserve a break. The bottom 50%, who are only feeders, deserve to shut the F_ck up about how much the top 50% pay.<BR/><BR/>If you are in the top 50% AND WANT to pay more taxes, you can give your tax return to your favorite charity. Otherwise, keep your opinions out of my wallet and I'll keep my opinions off your fetus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159291706765787282006-09-26T13:28:00.000-04:002006-09-26T13:28:00.000-04:009:58 AM - The wolves story is only a rare, to say ...9:58 AM - The wolves story is only a rare, to say the least, snapshot of human "training" and therefore a poor comparison to education. By the way, if you know the rest of the story, the humans did learn language because the inate ability was still there in their brains to do so. Many people overcome their lack of a proper education by using their wits and careful observation of the world around them. While you're final point of a proper homelife and education is an important factor, it is largely unmeasurable because of the incredible amount of variables that exist between families, homelives, educational opportunities, local customs, religious influences and even diets and medical care. The point was in the 12:25 post was this - you've still got a brain, wits, and the ability to make choices. To blame a lack of intelligence choices on a poor education only furthers the victim mentality that irresponsible people love to claim as the reason for their failures. Incidentally, while the South usually spawns the highest number of red states they also have some of the lowest student expenditures on education. Utah is 51st in student expenditure, behind Puerto Rico, and is the most Republican state in the union. Could there be a correlation there? Use your wits and judgement to draw your own conclusion!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159278843404191152006-09-26T09:54:00.000-04:002006-09-26T09:54:00.000-04:00Ostroy - Could we have your thoughts on the Clinto...Ostroy - Could we have your thoughts on the Clinton interview and Rice's response?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159210389596601582006-09-25T14:53:00.000-04:002006-09-25T14:53:00.000-04:00The "income tax reductions on every taxpaper." (wh...The "income tax reductions on every taxpaper." (which of course is for the wealthiest one percent of the population) is enough to ruin this country which as a result will soon be owned by China. Just out of curiosity - what's your favorite flavor of Kool-Aide?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159207818886220552006-09-25T14:10:00.000-04:002006-09-25T14:10:00.000-04:00"All someone needs to do is look at all the republ..."All someone needs to do is look at all the republican sponsored bills/laws and not one serves the american people but corporations."<BR/><BR/>some examples of Republican sponsored bills/laws that Democrats would erase if given chance:<BR/><BR/> * Tax deduction for families of slain soldiers.<BR/> * Elimination of the marriage penalty.<BR/> * Child tax credit expansion.<BR/> * Income tax reductions on every taxpayer.<BR/> * Expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit.<BR/> * AMT relief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159193119056030002006-09-25T10:05:00.000-04:002006-09-25T10:05:00.000-04:00Yeah, yeah, yeah. A Democrat finally showed some ...Yeah, yeah, yeah. A Democrat finally showed some backbone and spoke up in defense of the truth. Yeah Bill Clinton. I would all the other Democrats quit groveling and stand up and fight. But, even the Democrat brought in to speak on CLinton's behalf on MSNBC this morning was weak and ineffective; and, was so stupid he brought up Reagan whom he said would have succeeded in stopping the terrorists. Maybe the Democrats are not weak but are just stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159192690976996482006-09-25T09:58:00.000-04:002006-09-25T09:58:00.000-04:0012:25 In the few cases in history when infants we...12:25 In the few cases in history when infants were nutured and "raised" by wolves, they had not learned even how to talk when they were discovered in the woods. It therefore seems obvious that humans need specific training in order to develop and fulfill their potential. The wolves trained them to survive as wolves. So that would mean, of course, that human training would include a good education that encouraged the desire to learn and expand. Good training at home and a good educational system are crucial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159158318605908582006-09-25T00:25:00.000-04:002006-09-25T00:25:00.000-04:00The first poster fairly trashed the education syst...The first poster fairly trashed the education system. But aren't you given the opportunity to learn and expand your thinking at any time in this life? To blame a system, such as education, is incredibly lame. If you blame your lack of smarts on your 8th grade gym teacher it just indicates how irresponsible you are for your own life .<BR/><BR/>If you want to blame irresponsible people, try the religious right. They have given their ability to think and make adult decisions over to pulpit puppets and mythical notions. Now, there's an example of stupid people! Most of them are Republicans and we can see how stupid they have been by the stupid choices they've made.<BR/><BR/>Blame is lame! Grow-up and be an adult! Get out and Vote! Oh and THINK about it BEFORE you get to the polls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159156192984856842006-09-24T23:49:00.000-04:002006-09-24T23:49:00.000-04:00I used to be republican - now I am anti-republican...I used to be republican - now I am anti-republican - I'll vote for whoever has the best chance of removing a republican from office. I've vote for an atheist transvestite ex-prostitute ex-crackhead if that's what it took. I have realized the hard way that republicans simply exploit christians for votes and that they are universally corrupt, corporate puppets only looking out for their own greedy self-interests. All someone needs to do is look at all the republican sponsored bills/laws and not one serves the american people but corporations. It's amazing that people will vote for republicans simply because they dont agree with abortion or because they claim to be "religious". Christians need to look at the bigger picture, such as Bush endorsing torture.<BR/><BR/>I fear that Republicans, since they have deep ties to corporations, will be able and will commit voter fraud on a larger scale to maintain control. <BR/><BR/>My family and I are all anti-republicans and more involved with politics and voting than ever before. Our corrupt republican government needs to be replaced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159113029325637192006-09-24T11:50:00.000-04:002006-09-24T11:50:00.000-04:00I do not trust the people doing these surveys. The...I do not trust the people doing these surveys. The people hooked up with Leiberman and formerly Scarlet R party prior to Joe, got into trouble for forging polls. Wouldn't that make Diebold's job a little easier too??? I know alot of people in America... none have changed their mind to the positive lately.... just more on the "against us" side... since we are not with him anymore>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159110174075266282006-09-24T11:02:00.000-04:002006-09-24T11:02:00.000-04:00To 5:94 Almost everybody who reads this blog regu...To 5:94 Almost everybody who reads this blog regularly has "countered" Larry to no avail. And, if you're not "Larry" posing as Anon you'd realize that if he believe the Independent Pary in power would be preferable he cannot believe his last remarks supporting Bush. To try to point out his errant thinking would be a further waste of time.<BR/><BR/>To 2:16 -- It is clear you like to appear "erudite and above the fray". However, you did not realize that Tania was expressing herself clearly in a stream of consciousness mode which effectively expresses her feelings. Your "cute" slur at Europeans is reminiscent of yours or Larry's "cute" slur at the French sometime back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159078586589320572006-09-24T02:16:00.000-04:002006-09-24T02:16:00.000-04:00Tania, Your post tells me 2 things:1. You like t...Tania,<BR/> Your post tells me 2 things:<BR/><BR/>1. You like to call people stupid.<BR/>2. You don't know how to organize your thoughts into correct sentences.<BR/><BR/> I bet you are European.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1159019688421874732006-09-23T09:54:00.000-04:002006-09-23T09:54:00.000-04:00anonymous 7:05, Instead of attacking Larry, why d...anonymous 7:05,<BR/> Instead of attacking Larry, why don't you try countering the points he makes. His first 4 points support third parties - not Bush. If his thinking is so muddled, it should be easy for you to counter the points he makes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-1158966303291462372006-09-22T19:05:00.000-04:002006-09-22T19:05:00.000-04:00Larry continues to be a puzzlement. He continuall...Larry continues to be a puzzlement. He continually claims he's an independent and supports all/any third party candidate yet he continually supports Bush at every turn and on every point. Talk about muddled thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com