tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post1258831890975471816..comments2023-11-05T03:20:46.695-05:00Comments on The Ostroy Report: There'll be "Race Riots" in The Streets?The Ostroy Reporthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04955421147082736335noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-67315847706102802902008-05-21T13:59:00.000-04:002008-05-21T13:59:00.000-04:00Do you realize you have no credibility b/c you pos...Do you realize you have no credibility b/c you post as "anonymous"? If you are a regular poster, then come up with a name and gain some credibility which flows from enhanced accountability. Until then, your thoughts are worthless...Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-88062874017122042642008-05-21T13:28:00.000-04:002008-05-21T13:28:00.000-04:00FYI Sidney, You have lost all credibility as a se...FYI Sidney, You have lost all credibility as a serious or functioning poster after several responses brimming with hatred, venom, irrationality and vulgarity. This is your typical response even when the disagreement with you is mild. And I'll probably generate another such response from you. Here goes: This post of Ostroy's is aboslutely something all should read and the threat is real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-34274424065070964772008-05-21T09:25:00.000-04:002008-05-21T09:25:00.000-04:00Andy,I really cannot believe you even gave credenc...Andy,<BR/><BR/>I really cannot believe you even gave credence to a conservative pundits claim by making it the subject of a post as if she was a black leader with her finger on the pulse of the black community. All you have done here is futher fan the flames of racial fear. You become more Mildred-like with each passing day. Next you'll be quoting Bill O'Reilly as being representative of what the Irish are contemplating and/or threatening.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-18001181407636826612008-05-21T08:52:00.000-04:002008-05-21T08:52:00.000-04:00ANON 9:54...you write:Andy, I've respected much of...ANON 9:54...you write:<BR/><BR/>Andy, I've respected much of your commentary until now .. and regretably I now consider you a fraud ... with regards to the quote re "There will be race riots in the street if he wins enough super delegates..." you failed to take the full sentence as she stated that there would be race riots IF Obama won enough delegates and he was not given the nomination ... <BR/><BR/>Well, you are 1000% dead wrong, my friend. The quote from Bernard is EXACTLY how it came out of ehr mouth. Word for word. From the moment her lips parted and these moronic words came out, right until the point Chris Matthews stopped her dead in her moronic tracks and cut her off. Here's a nice challenge for you: get a transcript of the show and prove me wrong here. <BR/>AndyThe Ostroy Reporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955421147082736335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-63120468958526018382008-05-21T08:45:00.000-04:002008-05-21T08:45:00.000-04:0011:05 Your racism is startling. You say that the...11:05 Your racism is startling. You say that the majority of whites are racists and those who are will be after being mugged. Your implication is that the whites are justified in their racism because they have been mugged/harmed by blacks; and, that those who remain non-racial, will become racists after their inevidable mugging by a black.<BR/><BR/>I can't wait to hear your reasoning about why the blacks are also racists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-82643982133446989702008-05-21T04:28:00.000-04:002008-05-21T04:28:00.000-04:00America's media mafia is the last place one would ...America's media mafia is the last place one would go to find out the whole truth about anything and since the major networks are virtually connected to the governments hip, why would you want to switch on the ABCNBCBS's anyway?<BR/>Unless you enjoy the bright lights and sounds of infomercial news , then by all means.. these are the people who would sell their own souls for peace of mind. Makes sense to them. Me, I'll just stick to the serious issues without the side dishes and focus on bringing true justice to that which was promised to all free people through the internet. The heart of the beast. <BR/><BR/>Everything else is just a ratings grab.<BR/><BR/>-CNN SUCKSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-54909214130943612882008-05-20T23:14:00.000-04:002008-05-20T23:14:00.000-04:0010:48: Um, you're totally out to sea.1. There is...10:48: Um, you're totally out to sea.<BR/><BR/>1. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that "all the Dems who are women" will vote for Hillary. According to national polling she's trailing Obama among women (to this end in a new national Gallup poll, she's trailing Obama in general by a significant margin among Democrats). <BR/><BR/>2. Ferraro calling Obama sexist doesn't make Obama sexist. I'm not saying he isn't, but what kind of authority is she? She's just pissed because Hillary's losing, and in the process she was viciously attacked for her racist remarks.<BR/><BR/>3. If you think Republicans will vote for Clinton, you really have another thing coming. Republicans HATE the Clintons, even the liberal ones. They hate her irrationally, and so it doesn't matter how smart, capable and good with policy she is.<BR/><BR/>4. Hillary herself will never go independent, and refusing to vote for Obama results in president McCain.<BR/><BR/>5. Time and again, Obama polls better with independents than Clinton, even after the gaffes and scandals of the last two months. Whatever the reason (and I don't rule out sexism), that's the way it is.<BR/><BR/>I'm going to pose this question AGAIN, which has never been answered here: why would you vote for McCain over Obama? In what universe does that make sense? To this end, in my view Ferraro has lost all credibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-2595033937163432742008-05-20T23:13:00.000-04:002008-05-20T23:13:00.000-04:0010:48pm has no understanding of electoral politics...10:48pm has no understanding of electoral politics. He or she is wildly delusional about Hillary's potential support among liberal Republicans, who McCain will scoop up easily (not that there are many of that breed left anyway) as he is considered a bipartisan maverick. Hillary won't even pick up many Republican women either. You overstate the case for reverse discrimination. Republican women have never been supporters of Hillary. They won't vote for her solely b/c she has a vagina just like them. They are complex voters and not simpletons as you would have us believe. At best, Hillary as an Independent, and i'm being very generous, nets 25% of the overall vote. Enough to deny Obama the win, but not enough to win on her own. McCain would likely win w/ a plurality (under 50%) much as Bill Clinton did in 1992. <BR/><BR/>Now go back to your bong, you delusional wacko...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-19216005054808250392008-05-20T22:59:00.000-04:002008-05-20T22:59:00.000-04:00The rules are: to win, a Democratic candidate ...The rules are: to win, a Democratic candidate has to have the number of pledge delegates required by the rules to become the nominee. Obama does not have the required number nor is there a chance he will. Neither will Hillary In that case, the rules say the Super Delegates will use the evidence and their wisdom to choose the candidate more likely to win agsint the other party's candidate. Those are the rules. They can choose EITHER Obama or Clinton depending on the one most likely to win. And AT ANY TIME DELEGATES CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND. ONCE PLEDGED THEY ARE STILL FREE TO CHANGE. There is no way that if they choose Hillary they have broken the rules. They merely may decide Obama has too much baggage to win.<BR/><BR/>I presume 9:54 you're talking about the shooting in Brooklyn that riled Sharpton and everyone else for that matter. Amoung the irreponsible cops who shot and killed the man were two black cops. This is not a racial incident of white cops randomly shooting blacks. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure but I think I heard that they had reason to shoot since the car with the man who was shot didn't stop when ordered.<BR/><BR/>It behooves us all not to change the facts to win a point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-14859083485636812532008-05-20T22:48:00.000-04:002008-05-20T22:48:00.000-04:009:42 Besides your being rude beyond redemption yo...9:42 Besides your being rude beyond redemption you are stupid as well. However, the point is all the Democrats who are not going to vote for Obama if Hillary is not the candidate will vote for her as an Independent. That means almost all of the Dems who are women and many Repubican women who are also tired of mysogyny. Then she will pick up the more liberal Republicans who are not pleased with Bush or McCain and she will win others from all groups by her brilliance and appeal.<BR/><BR/>And, as contemptible as you are, you too will benefit from her presidency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-61976071409208110012008-05-20T21:54:00.000-04:002008-05-20T21:54:00.000-04:00Andy, I've respected much of your commentary until...Andy, I've respected much of your commentary until now .. and regretably I now consider you a fraud ... with regards to the quote re<BR/>"There will be race riots in the street if he wins enough super delegates..." you failed to take the full sentence as she stated that there would be race riots IF Obama won enough delegates and he was not given the nomination ... The frustration would occur if Obama played by the rules of democratic party, won fair and square despite all of Hillary's shinanigans and the nomination was given to Obama instead...<BR/><BR/><BR/>When you have a portion of the population that works hard every day as other 'hard working white americans' only to see on the news that police officers are not charged for firing 50 bullets at an unarmed black person celebrating his stag a day before planning to get married ... People could be a tad frustrated if Obama nomination is removed after wining on all counts ...<BR/><BR/>Please restore my faith in responsible blogging and avoid cheap 'sentence splitting' to garner shameful and incorrect intrepretationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-62054066397209556572008-05-20T21:19:00.000-04:002008-05-20T21:19:00.000-04:00A recent post by Ostroy pointed out the fact that ...A recent post by Ostroy pointed out the fact that Obama's support has declined since the Wright, bitter, Michelle revelations. Therefore, if that had been known sooner he would not have a lead of any kind Even tonight on CNN it was broung out that she has "been on a roll" and he has had "issues" since March, about the time Wright came out. Obama cannot win. Not even with Hillary. Why should she put herself in the second position of a losing campaign? Her voters will not necessarily go to him since they do not like him. Ferraro has announced publicly she will not vote for Obama becausse he is a sexist.<BR/><BR/>I heard another idea aired tonight and that is if she feels she deserves to be the nominee and it's denied (because of riots????) she will then run as an Independent. She probably could win in that position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-82437150085676874502008-05-20T20:00:00.000-04:002008-05-20T20:00:00.000-04:00There's only ONE way to settle this.A fusion...Oba...There's only ONE way to settle this.<BR/><BR/>A fusion...Obama/Clinton ticket!<BR/><BR/>Just as staunch Obama supporter, Andrew Sullivan proposed:<BR/><BR/>May 4, 2008<BR/>Obama-Clinton, a Hate-Filled Dream Ticket<BR/>Andrew Sullivan<BR/><BR/>It is for many in the Obama camp an unthinkable thought. But politics is sometimes the art of adjusting today to what seemed inconceivable yesterday. I'm talking about the possibility — and the powerful logic — of a unity Obama-Clinton ticket for the Democrats.<BR/><BR/>I never thought I'd even consider it; but times change; politics shifts, and in the roiling flux of this American campaign, a bold unifying gesture could make the Democratic ticket — and an Obama presidency — unstoppable almost overnight. It's still highly unlikely, but so was JF Kennedy running with Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan running with the first George Bush.<BR/><BR/>The rationale for a fusion ticket is the same as for any grand political compromise. The test of a president is his ability to recognise his own weaknesses and adjust to them. If he can do that while strengthening his core message, and make his own election close to unstoppable, what would hold him back?<BR/><BR/>Read here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article3866584.eceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-27633914925222739832008-05-20T18:32:00.000-04:002008-05-20T18:32:00.000-04:00How convenient! Race riots? That ship has already ...How convenient! Race riots? That ship has already sailed and capsized. The 60's are over, it IS a new century, racr riots would only confirm and validate what the world already knows about us....what? you want ME to 'splain to ya? LOL My question is why is anybody voting at all? What IS the point???? Not to be all pessimistic, but haven't we learned anything from these absurd four-year runs? Every four years the establishment trots out another(0r sometimes the same) "saviour" to lead us out of the morass that the last moron got us into. But at the end of their four year run, why there's yet ANOTHER morass that some one some where PUHLEEEZE get us out of this one and ...and ...you can have my first born, my taxes, anything, just fix it! And every four years we get to be bombarded, yes BOMBARDED with the lies of the next patsy. Well, fuck that! I refuse. After these last two Selections, what about THIS one is any different? Why hasn't Obama said one word.......not ONE WORD about 9/11? Why? Duuuuuuh. There won't be a race riot, people. Nothing quite so dramatic, there will be a four year wait for the next saviour to clean up after this one....again. Call me a downer, but I challenge you, what about anything I just said is not true? And I'm not supposed to complain?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-15364128793844806072008-05-20T17:14:00.000-04:002008-05-20T17:14:00.000-04:00Geraldine Ferraro was on the TV as well as others ...Geraldine Ferraro was on the TV as well as others expressing sympathy for Kennedy Then she got off on the campagaign and she is furious. She will not vote for Obama. Another Dem Party woman got on and said that the Party was no longer the Party she knew and she will vote for McCain. It was pointed out, too, that Donna Brazille and Dean have engineered Obama's almost certain win over Hillary. I don't know about the New World Order or any of the other charges about the two parties, but I know that the Democratic Party is not the one that I loved and supported for years. And, now the country is in worse shape thab the sixties with the civil rights movment. The race relationship has been set back decades. All that seems clear is McCain will surely win for all of the wrong reasons. At least there won't be rioting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-53639630458359309942008-05-20T16:57:00.000-04:002008-05-20T16:57:00.000-04:00Further evidence to discredit the popular, but fal...Further evidence to discredit the popular, but fallacious, notion that Obama cannot win in a state merely b/c he lost it to Clinton...<BR/><BR/>New poll by SurveyUSA shows Obama beating McCain by 8 points in Pennsylvania...If he chooses Edwards as his VP, he pulls away even further.<BR/><BR/>http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=162d4baa-59af-4ec5-9d9b-eb6e658e86c5<BR/><BR/>Clinton's argument that Obama cannot in the general win states he lost in the primary is completely off base. Can you say President Obama?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-4940271942661422062008-05-20T16:23:00.000-04:002008-05-20T16:23:00.000-04:00Forget them all, bring in an old white guy like Ro...Forget them all, bring in an old white guy like Ron Paul. Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like <A HREF="http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0" REL="nofollow">America Deceived (book)</A> from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.<BR/>Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-54471064607136127452008-05-20T15:47:00.000-04:002008-05-20T15:47:00.000-04:00Okay, once again, the media wants Obama to run aga...Okay, once again, the media wants Obama to run against McCain. That was the plan from the get-go. They made Barack the best thing since Viagra and hyped him more then Britney's love life. The media kept saying that Barack would be the one that would be hard to beat and that the Republicans did not want to face him. In fact it is Hillary that they are afraid of so knowing the sheep we have as voters all you have to do is use the old flim-flam trick and whala you get just what the right wing media wanted. <BR/><BR/>You keep pushing a product hard and long enough and it doesn't take gullible people long to fall for it hook, line and sinker. Remember the SUV that everyone HAD to have? "You soccer moms really need these gas hogs to haul your groceries with, you'll be MUCH safer, and to hell with the gas mileage, you'll be SAFER." We need Obama, he'll make us safer and he'll be the new President we'll all be able to look up to. Trust us we know what we're talking about. <BR/><BR/>Well as we're all watching the front door (Obama) the back door is being left wide open, and guess who will be entering that door come November, can we all say McCain? I'm still convinced that come this September (late) there will be an O-bomb-a shell that will rock the party and then the GOP picks up the their "hat trick".Priushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08581012414696707033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-54681257196251540012008-05-20T15:23:00.000-04:002008-05-20T15:23:00.000-04:00From Ezra Klein:Ted Kennedy has a malignant brain ...From Ezra Klein:<BR/><BR/>Ted Kennedy has a malignant brain tumor. Kennedy is the most effective, dogged, determined, and skilled liberal legislator in the Senate. He's one of the few Senators who is genuinely irreplaceable, whose absence would degrade the nation's social policy, and thus the life chances and economic security of millions of its disadvantaged residents. Without Kennedy, we wouldn't have the Americans with Disabilities Act, S-CHIP, the Family and Medical Leave Act, or any of a hundred other crucial pieces of legislation. Without Kennedy, it's hard to imagine passing universal health care. Without Kennedy, it's hard to imagine passing paid family or medical leave. Without Kennedy, it's hard to imagine our country becoming more decent or just or humane.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-81505743827111810402008-05-20T14:56:00.000-04:002008-05-20T14:56:00.000-04:002:53pm, Apparently you think my post was dim-witte...2:53pm, <BR/><BR/>Apparently you think my post was dim-witted by my contention that it's ridiculous to believe that the superDs will hand it to Obama MERELY due to a fear of blacks rioting, rather than on the basis of his having, you know, won by every metric. <BR/><BR/>So, I only use my head for holding my hat, hmm? Well, instead of just throwing stones, why don't you explain how that contention is NOT ridiculous? That way you can show us all how you use your brain.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-54441031264157842532008-05-20T14:53:00.001-04:002008-05-20T14:53:00.001-04:00Hehe, well, there's something we can all agree on:...Hehe, well, there's something we can all agree on: end the two-party system!<BR/><BR/>While we're at it, let's make the House into MMP, that way we're guaranteed at least some Greens and Libertarians will be in the mix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-38205643105425276942008-05-20T14:53:00.000-04:002008-05-20T14:53:00.000-04:00In general sidney,use your head for something othe...In general sidney,use your head for something other than a hat rackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-47168754705100536342008-05-20T14:49:00.000-04:002008-05-20T14:49:00.000-04:00oh and p.s.the Democrats and Republicans are both ...oh and p.s.<BR/><BR/>the Democrats and Republicans are both controlled by the New World Order. I used to consider myself a Democrat- no longer.<BR/><BR/>they did a great job ending the war (stop fucking funding it) and impeachment for war crimes, when they gained control of the House AND Senate....<BR/><BR/>good job NeoLibs!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-30383411005930096232008-05-20T14:34:00.001-04:002008-05-20T14:34:00.001-04:001:25 PMexactly, it's all rigged. does anyone reall...1:25 PM<BR/><BR/>exactly, it's all rigged. does anyone really think McCain has this much "support" in real life? gimme a break! if our votes truly counted we would be talking about Obama vs. Ron Paul in the General Election.<BR/><BR/>Its time for a REVOLUTIONAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-38518528233080438762008-05-20T14:34:00.000-04:002008-05-20T14:34:00.000-04:002:24pm is right..Obama has to be the dems pick. No...2:24pm is right..Obama has to be the dems pick. Not because he is, what's the word, FUCKING WINNING BY EVERY CONCEIVABLE, BY THE RULES, METRIC, but rather b/c the superdelegates are afraid blacks will riot. <BR/><BR/>Ostroy, do you see what you have wrought?<BR/><BR/>2:24pm is a vapid slug.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and where the hell do you get off saying "the people saying there would be riots in the street if Obama don't win are the same people who said if OJ was found guilty there would be riots in the street" <BR/><BR/>What do you mean by "same people"? Are you saying that Michelle Bernard, who Andy quotes in his post, said there would be riots in the street? Or by "same people" do you mean, generally speaking, black people or whites with black sympathies? God, you are living in the muck. Same people my ass. You are the missing link, my friend. Evolve and grow some thumbs.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.com