tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post6414099342338959867..comments2023-11-05T03:20:46.695-05:00Comments on The Ostroy Report: HillaBamaDramaRama: Both Candidates Now Dead Even Against McCainThe Ostroy Reporthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04955421147082736335noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-48421781467297213342008-03-16T14:12:00.000-04:002008-03-16T14:12:00.000-04:00"Yeah, Sidney Condorcet is a french ass wipe."Who ..."Yeah, Sidney Condorcet is a french ass wipe."<BR/><BR/>Who let Fox News reporters on this website, Andy?<BR/><BR/>"Michelle and Barack have Affirmative Action to thank for their educations and acceptance into whitey's world."<BR/><BR/>Another knuckle dragger, eh? So you're saying that Obama and Michelle did not or could not get into college and lawschool if they had been white? Because black people are naturally inferior? I'm shocked that Andy, a self-avowed, liberal (and a fundamentally decent human being) has not responded to such inhumanity. I hope Andy is as insulted as I am.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-91262941198861957252008-03-16T13:35:00.000-04:002008-03-16T13:35:00.000-04:00Hey, Sidney, you're evidently not a Christian and ...Hey, Sidney, you're evidently not a Christian and don't know what to expect from a Christian minister. It is forgiveness 70 times 70 for starters. Then its "do unto others ... " Then it's reliance on prayer to improve things and on and on and on. These statemens were made from a CHRISTIAN church - not the local bar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-54606634810786064422008-03-15T18:36:00.000-04:002008-03-15T18:36:00.000-04:00Michelle and Barack have Affirmative Action to tha...Michelle and Barack have Affirmative Action to thank for their educations and acceptance into whitey's world. Now, they bite the hand that helped them up.<BR/>They are only seen a veiled bigots themselves now.<BR/><BR/>How much is a one way ticket to Kenya?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-51776853993725261972008-03-15T11:28:00.000-04:002008-03-15T11:28:00.000-04:00Ostroy this is beginning to look like the Sidney C...Ostroy this is beginning to look like the Sidney COndorcet Report. Could we please hear from you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-57812378750586128832008-03-15T11:24:00.000-04:002008-03-15T11:24:00.000-04:00If Michelle was so underpriviledged who paid for h...If Michelle was so underpriviledged who paid for her very expensive education? She did not get a scholarship. For that matter, who paid for Barack's. He was not on scholarship either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-18653685442999264532008-03-15T10:53:00.000-04:002008-03-15T10:53:00.000-04:00News at 11, a lot of african-americans feel that A...News at 11, a lot of african-americans feel that America has historically screwed them over. I am SHOCKED that Obama has not shunned every one of his brothers and sisters who feels that way, including the select few that chose to express their dissatisfaction vocally. Oh wait, now I remember that I'm liberal, rational and I believe in pluralism, so I recognize that Obama shouldn't be judged based upon the statements of an influential member of his community. Maybe he should reject and denounce all oppressed peoples who dare to speak out in frustration or anger? How dare that uppity Jeremiah Wright? He should thank god to have been born in the wonderful, candyland that is the United States, a land that has placid and unnoteworthy history with respect to race relations? And for the smartass who'll come along next and say how african-americans have plenty of opportunity now and that the field is leveled (b.s.), deep wounds take generations to heal....Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-74079083253777883452008-03-15T10:09:00.000-04:002008-03-15T10:09:00.000-04:00The TEAM seems to be divided beyond, perhaps, repa...The TEAM seems to be divided beyond, perhaps, repair. When you learn that half of the team hates the other half of the team, you know there is serious trouble. <BR/><BR/>I am white and I am not responsible for the horrible history black people suffered in this country. I have done all I can do to fight the injustices I noticed since I was old enough to recognize them. I was for Obama and yes, partly because he is black. Now to find that the group of people he identifies with and the others he mentions as feeling the same anger and hatred toward me and all whites really depresses me. ANd, worse, the new minister, whom Obama supports was on TV quoting the Bible saying they have picked up the "sword" because of their anger. He made no apology, does not promise reconcilliation, and Obama is for him. How can there be a coming together and a healing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-40696738479073773052008-03-15T09:13:00.000-04:002008-03-15T09:13:00.000-04:00knock-out punch,by his own side WHAT A TEAMknock-out punch,by his own side WHAT A TEAMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-19141664019495824812008-03-15T09:04:00.000-04:002008-03-15T09:04:00.000-04:00527 groups are going to have a lot of fun with thi...527 groups are going to have a lot of fun with this,on hard ball last night obama said he can not rebuk his mentor,but he rebuks his remarks ,527 group runs the part of clip him saying he does not rebuke him and runs the sermon,and just think you can't call it swiftboating because it's the truthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-47979193091338365522008-03-15T01:05:00.000-04:002008-03-15T01:05:00.000-04:00Ain't going to happen 12:41...He's not going anywh...Ain't going to happen 12:41...He's not going anywhere, he's a political force who has inspired a generation of up-and-coming Democratic activists, so you'd better quit your own whining and live with it.<BR/><BR/>Also, don't know where you get that he's been "pointing fingers" or "crying wolf". Clearly you don't understand the meaning of those terms or you expect Obama to leave criticisms or negative comments of him to go unanswered. Obviously you prefer a John Kerry-type of candidate who allows himself to be defined in the public eye before responding to outrageous and specious assertion by his political enemies. Thank the good lord he isn't another Kerry.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-36952825683803845382008-03-15T00:41:00.000-04:002008-03-15T00:41:00.000-04:00Obama needs to stop whining and pointing fingers e...Obama needs to stop whining and pointing fingers everytime someone looks at him. The crying wolf tactic has long outlived it's usefulness. His 20 year relationship with Wright, an obvious bigot, should be reason enough to turn away from Obama, now. If people don't care about his lack of political accumen then being looked down upon by Obama and his 'spiritual' advisor should be reason enough to give him the walk off the plank. Obama can only drag the DNC down now. He needs to go - fast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-88495361747774072252008-03-15T00:19:00.000-04:002008-03-15T00:19:00.000-04:00"Are you so naive that you believe a man as smart ..."Are you so naive that you believe a man as smart as OBama is supposed to be didn't know Wright's core beliefs? Of course he did and he suuports them else he would not have his children exposed to that hate-talk or listened to it himself."<BR/><BR/>All of this assumes that the little snippets of Wright's preaching that has been the subject of criticism represents the vast bulk of his weekly preaching. From what I have read the last year about Wright, these comments are not representative of the week-to-week message. If every Sunday Wright railed against America, then I would have serious reservations with Obama and how he has not distanced himself completely from Wright. However, if these instances are rare occurences (such as after Katrina, when Iraq was at its lowest low, etc...) then I don't think Wright, let alone Obama, should be chastised for these controversial moments.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-27743361251974364162008-03-15T00:02:00.000-04:002008-03-15T00:02:00.000-04:00jbc -- Obama did not put words in Wrights mouth. ...jbc -- Obama did not put words in Wrights mouth. However, he has attended that church and listened to him for twenty years. He has surported the church financially and spiritually. Wright is his spiritual advisor. Are you so naive that you believe a man as smart as OBama is supposed to be didn't know Wright's core beliefs? Of course he did and he suuports them else he would not have his children exposed to that hate-talk or listened to it himself. Someone has pointed out that Jimmy Carter left his beloved Baptist Chruch as soon as it adopted its suppressive rules toward women. <BR/><BR/>And, Obama barely has a public record because of his short time as an legislature and because of his many "present" votes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-4125176985854774232008-03-14T23:54:00.000-04:002008-03-14T23:54:00.000-04:00I saw the CNN Anderson Cooper program when the rep...I saw the CNN Anderson Cooper program when the replacement as preacher for Rev. Wright was interviewed. He was hand picked by Wright to take over the church. When asked if he felt the same way as Wright he explained that blacks have a different world view than whites. In fact, even Obama had said during his interview that some blacks felt the same way Wright does - although in the same interview Obama said he hadn't known Wright felt that way. <BR/><BR/>Then after the new preacher gave that answer about the way blacks feel and to answer the question of how he felt, he said that the BIble says - he then quoted Matthew 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth; I come not to send peace, but a sword." This is the quote from the Bible that the NEW preacher gave as his answer as to how he feels. This is the preacher that Obama said he would welcome and that he would continue to attend that church.<BR/><BR/>I am white and I know a large number of blacks. I had no idea this kind of hatred was going on among them toward me, I guess althogh I'm not rich and I don't therefore, as Wright says, run the country. These militant comments and hatred scare me.<BR/><BR/>And, of course I wonder how OBama intends to CHANGE his fellow church members into feeling peaceful cooperative and benevolent towards whites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-5174918637736122362008-03-14T23:40:00.000-04:002008-03-14T23:40:00.000-04:00Bull. Obama wasn't there the day Wright made that ...Bull. Obama wasn't there the day Wright made that comment. You're requiring him to be clairvoyant as a condition of being president. Get over yourself, do some research, and, if you're willing, engage in an actual discussion of where this country needs to go and who is (and who isn't) qualified to lead us there.<BR/><BR/>This schoolyard b.s. in which you try to claim that Obama is responsible for statements made by someone else when he's not there that he's consistently repudiated and that his public record overwhelmingly demonstrates he doesn't agree with is just... lame.John Callenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622194201173858607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-5182523486546797572008-03-14T23:23:00.000-04:002008-03-14T23:23:00.000-04:00Today Obama said on TV, in his defense, THAT HE DI...Today Obama said on TV, in his defense, THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW WRIGHT MADE THOSE "GOD DAMN AMERICA" REMARKS OR THAT WRIGHT FELT THAT WAY. Obama went to that church for twenty years, Wright was his spiritual advisor and pastor all that time. He converted Obama to his form of Christianity and yet Obama didn't know how Wright felt about America. Either Obama is lying , or, he is too dense to be aware of what goes on around him and what affects his life. Either way he is not qualified to be president.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-73620653889914226172008-03-14T21:35:00.000-04:002008-03-14T21:35:00.000-04:00Obama gives 3 examples every _day_ of why he deser...Obama gives 3 examples every _day_ of why he deserves to be elected president. Look, for example, at how he has responded to the various shady attacks he's been undergoing. The guy rings true every time.<BR/><BR/>Just picking three to give you something to research, after which you'll be in a stronger position to assert that people who support him don't know anything about him:<BR/><BR/>1) His speech on October 2, 2002: <A HREF="http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php" REL="nofollow">Remarks of Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama Against Going to War with Iraq</A>. (You can contrast it with the speech Hillary gave 8 days later: <A HREF="http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html" REL="nofollow">Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq</A>.)<BR/><BR/>2) His speech to the Call for Renewal Conference in June 2006: <A HREF="http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060628-call_to_renewal_1/index.php" REL="nofollow">Call to Renewal Keynote</A>. For those playing along at home, it was this speech that first convinced me that he was worthy of being president.<BR/><BR/>3) Hilzoy's list of Obama's accomplishments during his first two years in the Senate: <A HREF="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html" REL="nofollow">Barack Obama</A>. It summarizes how he worked as a freshman Senator to achieve real accomplishments in important, non-glamorous areas like nonproliferation, avian flu, regulating genetic testing, and reduction of medical malpractice suits. For bonus points, you can also read Hilzoy's description of Obama's work as a state legislator to build bipartisan support for videotaping of police interrogations: <A HREF="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/02/obama-actually.html" REL="nofollow">Obama: Actually, I Think We Can</A>. Anyone who doesn't see the applicability of that particular experience to our current national nightmare vis-a-vis state-sponsored torture hasn't been paying enough attention for the last several years.<BR/><BR/>If you find the above enlightening you can go on to listening to the archives of <A HREF="http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/" REL="nofollow">Obama's podcast</A>. As I said before, it was his Call for Renewal speech that first made me think he deserved to be president. But it was listening to his weekly podcasts, in which he talked for hour after hour (and seemingly extemporaneously, though granted, he's a politician, and as such his remarks are always considered carefully in advance) on subjects both mundane and momentous, built my level of trust to the point where I really have no doubts about the guy at this point.<BR/><BR/>Obama is the real thing. Maybe to an outside observer the faith in him that his supporters exhibit looks like blind infatuation. But for those who can step back from their cynicism for a moment, there's another possibility you should consider: Maybe he inspires that kind of excitement because <I>he really is that good</I>.John Callenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622194201173858607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-75575447203939652852008-03-14T20:03:00.000-04:002008-03-14T20:03:00.000-04:00Sidney you ass wipe, of course Obama 'seems' more ...Sidney you ass wipe, of course Obama 'seems' more ethical, honest, and rational than Clinton or McCain. <B>YOU DON"T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.</B><BR/><BR/>Please tell me 3 things Obama has accomplished that makes him worthy of the most powerful position in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-24689386096307413212008-03-14T19:40:00.000-04:002008-03-14T19:40:00.000-04:00Anon 6:46, harmful facts like what? Keating Five, ...Anon 6:46, harmful facts like what? Keating Five, violent temper for McCain? Fundraising scandals, sex scandals for Clinton? Every politician has "harmful facts about them." They're human. I'm sure we can find a "harmful fact" or two about you if we had the time and inclination. If we require our elected leaders to exist on some higher moral level than us, we're begging to be lied to. All of us are imperfect.So it's all a matter of degree, basic integrity, and a candidate's chosen priorities. Obama, in terms of both style and substance, seems far more ethical, honest, rational and temperate than either Clinton or McCain.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-42382665930946382482008-03-14T18:46:00.000-04:002008-03-14T18:46:00.000-04:00Obama and Spitzer are two of a kind who practice "...Obama and Spitzer are two of a kind who practice "magical thinking." They thought harmful facts about them would never be discovered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-46407921992553583842008-03-14T18:41:00.000-04:002008-03-14T18:41:00.000-04:00jbc -- You were accused of projecting because you ...jbc -- You were accused of projecting because you were inferring things from the article that were not even implied, much less stated. Simple as that However, the psychiatric problem with projection is that the one doing so has no insight into his own problems; if he did he would not project them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-73680181871940778422008-03-14T18:39:00.000-04:002008-03-14T18:39:00.000-04:00Apparently the term "irrational coot" has now been...Apparently the term "irrational coot" has now been deemed a racial slur. My apologies for all who took offense.Sidney Condorcethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12956869706962997123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-11880612630970950422008-03-14T18:20:00.000-04:002008-03-14T18:20:00.000-04:00Obama has posted a great response to this: On my f...Obama has posted a great response to this: <A HREF="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html" REL="nofollow">On my faith and my church</A>.<BR/><BR/>Obama is the genuine article. Those who make the point that HIllary and he are almost identical in terms of policy proposals miss the fundamental truth: HIllary is adopting whatever position she thinks she needs in order to win, even when that means adopting contradictory positions within a 24-hour span (I'm honored to be running against Barack Obama. Oh, wait, no; _shame_ on Barack Obama! Shame!). Obama, meanwhile, is just being true to himself, delivering the same message he has delivered from the start of the campaign.<BR/><BR/>In that sense, it's the same as their respective positions on the original AUMF in October 2002: Hillary put her finger in the political wind and decided that she needed to give Bush authorization to invade. Obama, facing the same choice, was true to what he knew (and what I knew) at the time: that Bush was making a dishonest case for an ill-considered and immoral war.<BR/><BR/>I thought it was really funny when Andy accused me of psychoanalyzing him and projecting my own attitudes on him rather than dealing with objective reality, and in almost the same breath characterized all Obama supporters (including, presumably, myself) as harboring an irrational infatuation with the guy.<BR/><BR/>What do you know, Andy, about what motivates Obama's supporters? Where do you come off denigrating our support for him as somehow being less-rationally-arrived-at than your own support for Hillary? How do you know how much or how little research I and other Obama supporters have done before deciding whom to support?<BR/><BR/>The fact is, you don't know. But that doesn't stop you from spouting off.<BR/><BR/>It's just another example of your willingness to make categorical statements without supporting evidence. Which, given the nature of that particular charge (that we Obama supporters have chosen him without considering the evidence), is pretty amusing.<BR/><BR/>You're so funny when you try to talk smack, Andy. Keep it up! :-)John Callenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622194201173858607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-20082896277654963792008-03-14T18:18:00.000-04:002008-03-14T18:18:00.000-04:00Rant, all you want Sidney, but no Rabbi, Priest, G...Rant, all you want Sidney, but no Rabbi, Priest, Guru, or Pope has ever publicly said "God damn America." I heard Wright on tape say that less than an hour ago on Hardball with Chris Matthews. He blames America for 9-ll, by having committed autrocities against other countries. The Hiroshima bombing is mentioned. And he said America had no remorse. Wright hates America and white Americans, apparently. Obama was married by him and has attended that church for twenty tears. Yet, some dumb Obama supporter said to Bliztzer that OBama didn't know his minister had made these remarks. His supporters are becoming as untrustworthy as he is. However, since the tapes are on sale for the public to buy I'm sure it would be easy to research his sermon history over twenty years.<BR/><BR/>Romney got the religion test; Kennedy had to swear he wouldn't call on the Pope for advice; and no one wants a president who listens to damnation of our coutnry week after week for twenty years. There is -- there can be no excuse. Even if Obama doesn't agree with Wright despite his continued attendance to listen to his sermons, his bad planning and judgment allowed that connection to rise to this degree of outrage among Americans. That is certainly not bringing us together or inspiritng hope in his abillities.<BR/><BR/>Blitzer even quoted a Times article in which Wright told Obama several years ago that he might have to distance himself from Wright. Obama did not follow that good advice, as we all know.<BR/><BR/>And despite all of this and Dems still elect him as the nominee, it will not go away because the Republicans would win with this issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-73764396029290590402008-03-14T17:58:00.000-04:002008-03-14T17:58:00.000-04:00as you can see sidney also utters racial slurs,2 p...as you can see sidney also utters racial slurs,2 peas in a podAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com