tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post873985953606561433..comments2023-11-05T03:20:46.695-05:00Comments on The Ostroy Report: An Open Letter to Frightened Married HeterosexualsThe Ostroy Reporthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04955421147082736335noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-84266094376385179222010-11-30T23:52:14.257-05:002010-11-30T23:52:14.257-05:00For the life of me, I cannot begin to understand h...For the life of me, I cannot begin to understand how it is that same sex marriage is going to undermine "marriage" as an institution. It isn't as if, by legalizing gay marriage, more heterosexuals will suddenly opt into marrying their same sex best friends. Divorce does more to undermine marriage than anything, but I don't see nearly the amount of fervor towards it.<br /><br />We're far away from it simply being a religious institution too as long as the government gives benefits to married couples. The government can make this all square by taking away said benefits and being completely impartial. Let the churches do their thing and let the domestic partnerships do theirs. But I doubt anybody will go for that.<br /><br />And plenty of heterosexuals get married and never have kids or are unable to bear any. They are not the traditional family that religious folk speak of yet they get all the benefits of a married couple.<br /><br />Meanwhile, I would like to start a family and raise kids whether I have a relationship with either a man or a woman (I'm bisexual). The latter is the likely scenario, but I never know who I'll meet. And if I did happen to meet a man, I would still want to raise kids, even if they're from a surrogate or an adoption.<br /><br />Perhaps what frustrates me most about the Right is that legalizing gay marriage would actually be well in line with their philosophy, that of limited government involvement. But here we have the government dictating who can or cannot be a legally recognized married couple.<br /><br />And all this doesn't even touch upon the most loathsome criticism of gay rights: the almost knee jerk reaction of the Right to compare homosexuality to pedophilia.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14678690874559453426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-7381966844251995262010-08-08T00:34:34.839-04:002010-08-08T00:34:34.839-04:00Yet another anonymous...
I'd just like to poi...Yet another anonymous...<br /><br />I'd just like to point out that a more recent study shows kids of single parents doing as well as those of two parent households, when there is a stable home setting. Let's get away from the myths about single parents too. <br /><br />http://health.msn.com/kids-health/<br />articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=<br />100244659&ucpg=2#uc2Lst<br /><br />that's all one url, no spaces. too wide to fit in the textboxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-68176758288016863592010-08-06T23:24:42.464-04:002010-08-06T23:24:42.464-04:00First, let me state that I'm a different Anony...First, let me state that I'm a different Anonymous. Now a quote from the article:<br /><br />"Maybe you actually want some of that gay action, and rather than be honest with yourself about who you really are, you amp up the testosterone and lash out at those who are living truthfully."<br /><br />Ted Haggard. George Rekers. Larry Craig. Mark Foley. The entire Catholic church. Need I go on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-15845119633144350842010-08-06T12:12:39.703-04:002010-08-06T12:12:39.703-04:00I have been married for 35 years, grew up with an ...I have been married for 35 years, grew up with an effeminate kid who became one of the early AIDS victims, had gay friends in high school, worked among gays for almost 50 years, and I am using these experiences to post a challenge to the so-called Christians out there preaching hatred and violence that "their" Savior would angrily disavow:<br /><br />Explain to me in clear terms -and not in religious gibberish you don't understand yourself- how allowing gays to share the joys, pains, and legal rights of marriage in any way harms me or my relationship to my wife of 35 years. Explain how society is harmed in any way by gays who aren't likely to reproduce being allowed to marry when 25% of American kids today suffer poverty because you self-righteous Pharisees won't tithe unto Caesar as you do that charlatan huckster whose pernicious rantings you swallow like Jim Jones' Guyana Blend.<br /><br />You cannot, for there is not one shred of truth in your hateful rants.Realisthttp://blogcritics.org/writers/realistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-6879587137459555562010-08-06T10:59:12.876-04:002010-08-06T10:59:12.876-04:00Anonymous - it's only a complicated issue if y...Anonymous - it's only a complicated issue if you're a bigot, which you clearly are. As the judge's ruling showed, there are NO statistics which show that children raised by gay parents are any worse off than those raised by straight parents.<br /><br />Really, we keep debating the ridiculous. People like you need to truly admit why you fear and/or hate the gay community so much.<br /><br />It is beyond pathetic that you would go out of your way to try and deny a large group of people equal rights.Paul Harveyhttp://www.facebook.com/pauleharveynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-74029617198367418802010-08-06T10:01:26.143-04:002010-08-06T10:01:26.143-04:00I am for equal rights for gays, so this question ...I am for equal rights for gays, so this question is an honest inquiry.<br /><br />The only difference I see betweeen the legal contract under the law with the consequent legal conditions, is a civil/legal matter which couples enter into. <br /><br />On the other hand the word marriage when applied to this legal agreement conotes a religious and spirtiaul commitement between the two, having actually nothing to do with their relationship to the state. A coupld is not legally married without its being recognized by the state.<br /><br />There is the possibility that some and perhaps all religions will refuse to perform a "marraage ceremony" which should have nothing to do with the legal union recogznied by the goverment as legitimate and the couple is "married." <br /><br />So why isn't it that the government performs the legal requirements for a "marraige"union, valid whether the "churcHh recognizes it or not; and, hereafter, the religious ceremony of "marraige" in the church is not connected to the status of the provisions of couples' contract recognized by the government? One is the required legal structure and the other the required religious agreements by each religion. <br /><br />In other words -- sepration of church and state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-53505821148129878962010-08-05T20:40:04.908-04:002010-08-05T20:40:04.908-04:00You would do yourself a big favor by not wasting y...You would do <em>yourself</em> a big favor by not wasting your time telling me how to write. If you don't appreciate what I have to say and the way I say it, move on. This may come as a shock to you, but I don't tailor my writing style to the whims of my readers. My readers either like who i am and what I say and how I say it, or they choose not to read.The Ostroy Reporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955421147082736335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11636447.post-36075035311998186082010-08-05T16:46:38.039-04:002010-08-05T16:46:38.039-04:00You would do yourself a big favor if you dropped t...You would do yourself a big favor if you dropped the angry rant attitude and addressed the issue with respect and dignity.<br /><br />It's not a simple question, no one can argue that it is.<br /><br />There are many people who sincerely believe that the traditional family unit is the foundation of society. There are rafts of statistics that show that when it breaks down, all sorts of negatives happen in society. All you have to do is look at the statistical changes that occurred after the Great Society's liberal welfare policy gave people tremendous incentives to break up nuclear units.<br /><br />History has shown that a family is healthiest when children are raised with strong mother and father figures present in the household - something that is definitionally absent in a gay household.<br /><br />Of course, it's true that gays who marry can provide a good home to raise children. And single hetero parents can as well. <br /><br />The nuclear family has been provided many advantages to enhance it's attractiveness to continue the society. Health insurance for spouses, etc. Many of those benefits are based upon the traditional expectation that one spouse will neuter their productivity in the furtherance of enhancing the family unit - something that can but usually is not an aspect of a gay family unit.<br /><br />There are plenty of responses to that - the most important of which is that sexual orientation is not relevant to a person's parenting skills and people are frequently called upon to pick up another parent's slack in myriad different ways.<br /><br />But it's not a simple answer and certainly one whose progress is HAMPERED by the angry rants that you throw about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com