Wednesday, September 03, 2008

The Republican Hypocrisy is Enough to Make You Sick

Given the amount of posts to our message board from Republicans yapping about everything from Barack Obama's "bastard childhood" to Bill Clinton's blowjobs, and that Democrats themselves have controversial situations in their lives, I'd like to try one last time to get our conservative friends to understand why those of us on the left pounce on scandals like Gov. Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol's pregnancy.

Let me make it simple: hypocrisy. No Democrat would be foolish enough to state that liberals are perfect. That we're scandal-free. Sinners come in both blue and red. The difference is, Democrats don't sanctimoniously lecture everyone else from the bully pulpit about ethics. About what's moral. About what constitutes "acceptable" family values. About how to live your life. About right and wrong. Good vs. evil. That's what Republicans do. It's conservatives who want to tell us all how to live, who to marry, who to sleep with, what to do with our bodies, when to let a sick loved one die. But time and time again, they are proven to be living a lie. Creating a double-standard. They're all about do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do. They often live in the biggest glass house, yet throw the largest stones. So when they fall, when they sin, when they are exposed as the hypocrites they are, we rejoice. Because that's what they deserve.

Bill Clinton may have hugely sinned, but he never preached morality to anyone else. Barack Obama may be the child of a broken home, but he at least had the class this week to encourage voters, both Democrats and Republicans--as he reminded them that his own mother was just 18 when she gave birth to him--to let the Palin family's private matter remain just that: private. That's a helluva lot more than what he or vice presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden would be getting from the right if the situation were reversed.

And while we're on the subject of hypocrisy, ya gotta love how McCain, Palin, the GOP and all the Conservative spinners out there are whining about how Bristol's pregnancy is a Palin family personal matter, and that the Democrats and the press should leave her and her boyfriend, Levi Johnston, out of the debate and allow them their privacy. Yet, guess who the McCain/Palin campaign trumps out onto the tarmac Wednesday, in some twisted family-values photo-op, to greet McCain's plane as he lands in Minneapolis for the RNC convention? Bristol and Levi. So please, don't lecture us anymore about their privacy. The fact that McCain is surprisingly exploiting this Sin City mess as if it's something to be proud of, and Palin's gleefully going along for the ride, means it's open season on them and the whole affair. Grandpa John and Grandma Sarah can't have it both ways.

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Anonymous said...

Republicans are not hypocrites, Ostroy. We do live more morally just lives than Liberals.

Anonymous said...

Another thing to note, if Palin's family life is supposed to be private, quit mentioning about your son in Iraq. Isn't that private too? Can't have it both ways.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your post about the hypocrites among the Republicans. You nailed this one very well. All of us are sinners and have come way short of perfection. The difference, as you correctly state, is that those of us who are liberals don't go around preaching to others about our superior virtue.

Anonymous said...


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Anonymous said...

Good Lord can anyone be so dumb as to list their email address?

Anonymous said...

Andy, this is just what we have been talking about for years. It's OK to go after the Dems for crap like a BJ and Whitewater but when it comes to the Red Party they can't take it.

Keep the blogs coming, you're the BEST!!!

Anonymous said...

Right you are, Andy! Beware of all those conservatives who believe themselves to be morally righteous while lecturing and hectoring others about leading upright lives as they themselves carry on like the reprobates they are! The stench of hypocrisy permeates St. Paul this week!

Anonymous said...

"Democrats don't sanctimoniously lecture everyone else from the bully pulpit about ethics."

Yikes. Hypocrisy clearly has no party lines. Both parties are guilty of pushing their ideas on me. It's time to do away with both major parties and get back to what matters.

Sidney Condorcet said...

Also, this is what Senator Cochran, a Republican from Mississippi, had to say about the notion of John McCain as President:

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," Cochran said about McCain by phone. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

Anonymous said...

There's plenty of fun to be had searching "Jamie lynn Spears" added with "Bil O'Rieley" " James Dobson" and the like. To see O'Really simply tee of on the parents when it comes to Spears....but now what does O'really think? Funny stuff.

Anonymous said...

I'll show you hypocrisy:

After calling poor people bitter and ridiculing them for clinging to religion; Obama, later,

in an effort to pander to those "bitter" folks quoted

a Bible passage with which he said he agreed. In this passage Jesus said

"If you do it unto the least of these you do it unto me."

Yer, although Obama said this to a crowd of thousands, he knew in his heart that he had voted to ensure that the babies who survivied abortion would be refused help and be left to die.

That is hypocrisy BIG TIME.

Anonymous said...

Or how about when Obama says "I am my brother's keeper"

He has a $1.9 Million dollar mansion and his brother lives in a $5 shack.

Sidney Condorcet said...

Wow, the desperation of 5:29pm/5:37pm!! Obama's "bitter" remarks were indeed unfounded, but he wasn't "ridiculing" those people. He was trying to figure out why many people vote against their obvious interests for the sake of cultural wedge issues which are exploited by the political elite. He wasn't disparaging those people. Of course, you keep up your faux outrage, you small-minded fool...

Ahh, and then you mention Obama's half-brother in Africa. Obama met this character once and did not even know he existed until his visit to Africa. Cindy McCain, meanwhile, calls herself an only child even though she has half-siblings and she refuses to share her father's wealth with those half-siblings. Mind you, unlike Obama, she has known about these half-siblings for decades. Yet, she doesn't act as her "sister's keeper." Hell, she doesn't even acknowledge their fucking existence. So again, spare me the hypocracy and fake outrage...

Anonymous said...

Even the elite Republicans are saying it:

"After a segment with NBC's Chuck Todd ended today, Republican consultant Mike Murphy and Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan were caught on a live mike ridiculing the choice of Sarah Palin.

"It's over," said Noonan, and then responded to a question of whether Palin is the most qualified Republican woman McCain could have chosen.

"The most qualified? No. I think they went for this — excuse me — political bullsh** about narratives," she said. "Every time Republicans do that ... because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at and they blow it."

Murphy chimed in:

"The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.""---Ben smith,

Anonymous said...

Cindy McCain did not build a stadium five miles high and say to a crowd of thousands


That's hypocrisy when your REAL brother is starving in Africa. And, yet he promises all the people here that all their dreams will be fulfilled. He is "the One."

BTW = Cindy is not running for President.

Why didn't Obama figure out the motivations of the people in the privacy of his own quarters instead of criticizing them and calling attention to their "bitter clinging" to the entire world?. Not good judgment and certainly not kind. He "did it" to the least of them, again.

Sidney Condorcet said...


"Cindy McCain did not build a stadium five miles high and say to a crowd of thousands..."

Obama did not build a stadium. It was built by Pat Bowlen, owner of the Denver Broncos. Also, the stadium is roughly a mile high, and not five miles high. The crowd was roughly 80,000 people. Obama never said that "all of their dreams will be fulfilled." Your effort at hyperbole is noted for the record.

Cindy has stated that the only way to get around Arizona is by private plane. Talk about how the McCains are out-of-touch!

You are a feral moron, who honestly isn't deserving of the attention I just foolishly lavished on your hyperbolic, absurd statements

Anonymous said...

"Obama met this character once and did not even know he existed until his visit to Africa."

OK, so Obama was aimlessly wandering around Africa and he just bumped into his brother.

Somehow I don't believe the misogynist Sidney. I think Obama knew about his brother before his visit to Africa.

Did Obama buy his $1.9 Million house after his trip to Africa ? Do you think he could have purchased the $1.5 Million house down the road and sent his brother $50 for a better shack ?

Sidney Condorcet said...

Go to sleep, you feral moron. You can't provide substantive reasons why the Republicans should honestly deserve to be entrusted with power after these last eight disastrous years, so all you can do is bring up pointless distractions...
Baby need his mommy...

Sidney Condorcet said...

Hey feral monkey,
Keep up the distractions...And I think it's sacriligious on your part to call Obama the Messiah. I mean, he's a great politician and all, but you shouldn't go overboard. He's just a man.

How are Cindy's sisters living? Oh yeah, she doesn't believe in sharing the wealth. And Johnny McCain hasn't done the right thing and tried to persuade his wife to share. Hell, he won't even tell his wife that it's not nice to omit the existence of your half-siblings.

I think you should be living in a $5 shack to go with your $5 education.

Anonymous said...

You (r)'s make it TOO easy... the point of the article is that we can kinda go through republican and the christian right wing and find DOZENS of people telling others that thier "living in sin" and living "morally" corrupt lives!

5:59/5:57/5:37:5:29, the argument was that you did not see clinton pushing ideas of marriage and fedility. Barrack rightly stated "that while we might not agree on abortion, we can all agree that we need to reduce the amount of TEENAGE Preganancies!" Now we have a VP that promotes an abstience only policiy, anti abortion, with an UN-WED tennage daughter! Tell me, is her daughter a sinner for having sex? I would say un-protected sex, but obviously she was never learned about condoms or any other contraceptive! Or is it okay to have sex as a teen as long as you have the baby if you get pregnant?

But honestly, this is so off th issuies it's said. barrack rightly pointed out that there is a large segment of our population that seems to vote against thier OWN INTRESTS.

As an african american male, I understand the differences seen between republicans and dems. I see the differences between the south, the mid-west, the east and the west coast. Is thier ANY surprise that the west and northern east coast states vote the same, while the south and midwest vote the same?

I advise both sides to google a paper that is well known in the african american community. Its called "The Willie Lynch Paper". In this paper, a slave owner describes how you enslave a population by EXPLOITING the most MINUTE of differences to control a population. The paper was written in regards as how to get slaves to remain slavs by HATING each other, based on where they lived and worked, the color of thier skin, thier hair.

I think that the powers that be in DC are using the same principles on the genral population. If you look in the paper and subsitute Field N#$%&er for Red-Neck, Hillbilly or christian fundemetalist (or use House N&^^er, the point is the labels my friends) and label the other liberals something DIFFERENT, you can easily control both sub-groups by encouraging hatred between the two. READ the paper people, and substitute (ULtimately) democratic and republican for houe and field, and tell me if this has not been happening for at leats the last 60 years! Thier is only one canidate out thier that is making the argument that while we might not AGREE, we can find common ground, and we can work towards finding a solution that while not perfect, respects the core principles of everybody. Thier is another canidate, that feels that they need to get people tha REFUSE to except the very human idea that everyone deserves basic human rights, regardless of who they are, i.e being able to vist someone they love and lived with in the hospital, or provide them with health benifits.

There is a party that feels that to win, they need to appeal to the most base of thier instincts and desires, while alientaing all those that do not agree. Thier is anther party that is trying, desperately to unite us behind a common goal, regardless of the differences, because ultimately, we have WAY MORE IN COMMON then we do differently.

Its NOT about abortions and people saying do what I say.and not what I do. Its about voting for YOUR BEST INTRESTS. Thier is one group that thinks everything over the last 8 years was okay! Thier is ANOTHER stating that its not. Ask yourself before you truly make up your mind. What REALLY MATTERS.. abortion, or the ability to feed your family? Or work? or send your kids to college? IF you hade NO problems with these issuies, I ask you this then? Wouldnt have Jesus been concerned more with his less fortunate brothers, then with the chance that someone would chose to have or not have a baby? Wouldnt he have been more concernd about UNNESSARY WARS (he was no pacifist! remeber the temple of the money changers) or more concerned about trying to figur out the proper way to teach about sex?


A concerned American in New Jersey

Anonymous said...

Why does Sarah Palin hate teen mothers?

In a time of record revenues in Alaska government due to the spike in oil prices, Sarah Palin this year used a line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of shelter.

Anonymous said...

The liberals on this blog have completely lost it. There is no credibility on the OstroyReport and I love it.

This site is just another left wing hate site.

Anonymous said...

6:57 No one saod sex outside of marriage was OK or not. They are saying that if you do get pregnant don't kill the child. Thou shalt not kill.

2. This time the South is voting Democratic because a large part of the population is voting for its own interests.

3. There has been "class" warfare of late and the very rich and the poor seem at odds. However, I have no confidence in Obama because he attended a church, Trinity, that teaches hatred against another group of people. THe very activity you decry. He attended and listened to that divisive message for twenty years. How can we believe he didn't agree?

4, Usually civilized people do believe that all people are entitled toe equal rights. If you're referring to gay people visiting their partners most people agree that right should be theirs. There are those who would certainly ensure that civil right, but others think marriage is a function of the church and each church should decide on performing that sacrament or not. That would be separation between church and the state which would guarantee civil rights and a legal partnership .

5. Most would agree that Americans have more in common than not. Both parties are trying to win voters to their side. In fact, Obama has already "gone to the other side" in agreement with the Republicans, which has angered those who wanted to elect a person who represented what they considered to be "their best interests."

6. The problem is of course that people consider different issues better represent "their" best interests. There are those who DO consider abortions the most important issue because they think it is murder. Of course, their are others who think feeding their own family is more important as serving their best interests. The former group who feels abortion is the issue, feel that if they "do the right thing" GOd will take care of them and their families. That is their fundamental, religious belief. Jesus believed in the Ten Commandments and would not believe killing was acceptable. On the other hand, he said over and over again, "Feed the poor." Jesus, in his wisdom would solve both issues and satisfy everybody. Wisdom can bring harmony and satisfaction to all.

And, the issue is not the proper way to teach sex, the issue is how to stop unwanted pregnancies so there will be no need for abortion.

There are important things to solve and it is no easy matter. Wisdom and a sense of "humanity" is required.

It would helpful if the Religious Right knew that we're all equal in the eyes of God and believed Jesus whenhe said "God is Love; and, that the devil isn't "in" any of us. There are just misguided ideas.

Anonymous said...

Thank You 8:04! rational argument in a time when most seem content through around simple one line hate statements! I actually agree with you on a lot of your points. I would argue however with you on a few points.

1) I was pointing out that if your going to teach a concept that abortion is murder, then one should teach ALL the ways that would prevent murder. If you rationaly acept that there are those that will subcome to thier baser instincts, something that seems to occur even among those preaching no sex, then it would seem the higher value would b preventing murder NO MATTER WHAT! thus, while sex outside of marriage is a sin, wouldnt murder b the Greater sin? and I would like mention that while adoption is a choice, what is apparent in america is that FEW americans actually choose to adopt, thier are numerous laws preventing well qualified potential parents from adopting, and the current trend seems to be that if you can adopt, its easier and more convient to adopt from a foreign nation. How does that help in anyway a poor teenage single mother that does not have help in anyway from familes that not only decry thier daughters action, but does not intend to help her? This is not support for abortion (I dont think its a great idea myself) but a call to realize that ultimately its a PERSONAL descison, and one left to each individual WOMEN to decide on her own.

2) The south is not "voting democratic". what is ocuring is more minorities are coming out to combat the traditional southern and mid-western religious right that has delivered the south to republicans for the last 40 years.

3) The argument that you do not trust Obama becaus eof the message delivered by his pastor cuts both ways! Palin's pastor delivered sermons in which he used religion to decry a political choice! Not only that, Palin herself has given similiar sermons, and was pat of a party that was anything but country first! I am willing to buy that a person might not have agreed wth his pastor and not spoken up about those disagreements as oposed to someone that sat in a church and actually gave sermons promoting a position that most would NOT agree with. the video is here.... and here...

3)My argument was not against those that understand reason in the face of disagremment (regarding gay rights) My argument is that the BASE of the republican party does not even believe is something as basic as visting a loved one in the hospital! or anti-discrimination in the workplace. or health benifits. My argument regarding "marriage" is that it's something established by a church, and according to our constituion, there is supposed to be a seperation between church and state! Futhermore, explain to me how laws barring those of different races where wrong, yet laws barring gay marriage is right? How does gay marriage effect hertosexal marriage in anyway? If the argument is that its sacred, then doesnt that mean that NOTHING can effect it? the contradictions appear as soon as you apply logic to it in any way. However, your argument about beliefe is correct! beliefe trumps logic everytime. However, this country was founded to prevent peoples BELIEFS from infringing on the FREEDOMS of anyone else. and that is my fundemental problem with the republicans, and to a lesser extent with the dems as well.

4) Your final argument points out the biggest problem we have today. Americans forgot the one thing that made america america. Your neighbors for the most part knew how to mind thier freaking bussiness. Its easy to establish that abortion is the most important issuie when you live in a community where the average median income is at LEAST 250 thousand a year! I mention the debate held at the church with McCain and Obama where the question was asked what qualifies as rich. Obamas answer was interesting NOT because of what he said, but because the pastor responded that the majority of those in atendance "..make QUITE a bit more then that!" I come from a poor family and a background VERY similiar to Obama. I know what poor looks like, as well as wealthy. I have traveled the nation, and I have yet to meet ANYONE who while having trouble paying the bills and feed thier family thinks abortion or gay rights are ultimately more important then the ability to pay bills or put food on the table! I am still waiting for a study where opinions about abortion and gay rights, and where they rank in the importance of picking a politician are corralated with yearly income. I see geographical data, but never economic. I wonder why.

and you paraphrased obama when you state th way to solve abortion issuies is to ultimately prevent unwanted preganancies! perhaps we should look at other countries and see how they do it (I can assure you abstience only education IS NOT the policy.)

I would change your last statement. Its not that the devil is not in any of us. Its that the devil is in what on face sounds like a good idea. The devil is in the details! hence why its so important to pick someone that is NOT impulsive, that is thoughtful in thier choice, with both wisdom (which comes not from experince, but from true thinking.. We all know OLD fools!) and compassion that we are all human. if you are religious, I say lok to your profits.. None of them would turn away ANYONE with thier hand out asking for mercy and help. We need a goverment that realizes it does not need to hinder the man thats running full speed.. it merely needs to insure that its not running another man into the ground in the race.

A concerned American in New Jersey

Anonymous said...

New Jersey has been run by Democrats for a long long time and it is one of the most corrupt and bankrupt states in the entire country.

People are leaving NJ in troves to escape the skyrocketing property taxes.

Businesses are leaving NJ for more favorable tax burdens.

If the Democrats can't run a state like New Jersey, what makes you think they can run the entire country ? What makes you think they will be any different than the corrupt leadership in NJ ?

Anonymous said...

"The liberals on this blog have completely lost it. There is no credibility on the OstroyReport and I love it. This site is just another left wing hate site."

Then, thank goodness, we shouldn't expect to see your smugness around here anymore.

Anonymous said...

Buddy obviously you havent been to Jersey! The people here would love to put a few heads on pikes here. Its Just hard to compete when your state has some of the richest communities in the state! I know its courrupt. I wouldnt elect anyone from here to run my local Boys Club let alone the Country!

My argument is this. The republicans have had 8 YEARS to get things right. When the daily show gets thier reps saying things like "I cant believe the first day was cancelled because of a little rain!" I think that it might be a syptom of a party that gives exactly 2 craps (I'm being genourous!) about any one that is not 1)rich 2)that doesn not believe in what they believe in 3)wants freedom for all!

I'm not say Obama is great! Hell I wouldn't have nominated him! I wouldnt have nominated hillary either by the way. But its the two choices where left with. if I'm hungry, and somon sets a pile of crap on a silver platter in front of me, and another pile of questinonable age chicken. Im taking the chicken! Your insane if you want to eat a pile of crap (unless your into that sort of thing..and thats another blog)! This isnt about picking the best canidate. I'll be the first to admit, its about picking the one that wont be as bad for america over the next four years.

I ask you this..

You own a bussiness.. you tend to run through managers every 8 years, and you hire someone that after 8 years, you realize nearly bankrupted you, destroyed the team atmosphere, alientaed your customers, gave discounts to the competion, and when you ask why, he tells YOU that everything is okay...

Now I ask you.. Would you hire the assitant manager that agreed with all the descisons that the manager made? Or would you think, let me try and save my bussiness and give someone else a shot? if the only canidate you got is the young ustart from school, vs the guy thats runing your bussiness into the ground, who do you pick?

Myself, I fire the guys screwing the pooch, ad say hell, the worst he can do is finish the job that was started by the guy before him.

A concerned American In New Jersey

P.S: and talking of corruption, culdnt we pick virtually any state in the union and find cases of corruption in the last 30 years? Including Alaska and the current V.P pick from that great, distante and basically empty (population wise) state? I mean, doesnt the Tri-sate area (NY, NJ, Conn) have triple the population?..within in a 20 mile radius... Hmmmmm....

Anonymous said...

hey! 10:09... I welcome the smugness... I mean. it's tough to actually upload anything longer then three sentences with thought... Like our political groups, they seem to like making blanket statements based on a lack of research, thought, and rational thinking... but then again I'm assuming that the canidates can do any of those things... well I think one can do that.. I just have a hard time believing that he can do so with no concern for the lobbyists and political opponents..

Anonymous said...

Concerned in New Jersey,
"Buddy obviously you havent been to Jersey!"

I lived in New Jersey for 34 years. The best counties are the Republican counties.

Anonymous said...

10:28.. your right... the multi million dollar homes, the polie officers that dont beat you on a moments notice. Tell me.. I dont know I'm not rich... Whats it like knowing you can drive in a nice neighborhood and not worry about getting pulled over and shot for "fitting the profile"? Similiar to what happened to a car load of college students in 1999?

I would like to know... since the repubulican party has the nicest neighborhood's in New jersey... and the party line is "Country First!". What have they done for cities like Newark, Jersey City, Trenton? What have they done for the poor in cities like Hoboken ad montcliar where the poor are being forced out without help or concern? like I said... Buddy you havent been to New jersey!! Do you really beieve Bon Jovi and Bruce Spingsteen was talking about your REPUBLICAN neighborhoods in thier songs?

Wow..I bet you do!!!! Amazing....

And people wonder why I say that people from BOTH parties have moments of delusion.

A concerned Citizen from the TRUE New Jersey

Anonymous said...

I went to school in Newark during the 1990's. Lived there for 7 years. It was a shit-hole then and has improved greatly since then. Some of the improvements were due to Clinton putting Newark on the 50 worst cities in America list while I was there. See, unlike liberals, I'm not blinded by my hatred of the other party.

I didn't live in a multi-million dollar home either, so I can't tell you what that is like.

My father had 2 jobs and started his own side business to provide money for his family of 6. I started washing dishes when I was 13 so I can have my own money. I worked all summer to pay for my college tuition.

I know the concept of work, having your own money, and paying for school by yourself is a foreign concept for a liberal, but its the life I was dealt and I'm glad I had the opportunity to learn what its like to have to earn my own money without the government or seizing someone else's money.

Don't tell me that I'm not from 'true' New Jersey, what's your story ?

Anonymous said...

"I know the concept of work, having your own money, and paying for school by yourself is a foreign concept for a liberal..."

You *know* no such thing.

I paid for my school out of my own pocket with help from student loans, built my own business, employ good people and have a nice middle-class life.

I'm proud to be a liberal and ashamed as an American by the hateful, angry display at the RNC this evening.

It was really awful.

Anonymous said...

Provide one example of hateful, angry display at the RNC. There wasn't anything at the RNC that I didn't see at the DNC the previous week. I've watched every night of both conventions. You don't know what you are talking about.

Anonymous said...


Interesting, you claim you went to school in newark during the 1990's... so did I.. I attended Newark Science High School.. now Known as Science Park! I was one of the debate students there that help put newark on the map as a debate power house during the mid and late 90'S! I was given THE key to THE CITY OF NEWARK IN 1997! (A lttle research and you will know exactly who I am!)

I come from a home where my mother (by herself!) worked to keep a roof over our head while I did debate. I began working at 13,as a pool aid in Orange, NJ, like yourself, not to put myself thru college, but to afford clothing for high school! Thier was NEVER enough to put away for college.I've worked every summer snce then.

You make the argument that paying for college yourself is a "foreign concept" however, Like millions of other students that come from poor families with SINGLE PARENTS THAT WORKED THEM SELVES TO DEATH to give thier child a better life, I am grateful that thier was an adminstration that was concerned with the welfare of those that only had enough to put food on the table and keep a roof over thier heads!

I attended Rutgers Newark (proudly mind you!) unable to pay for books, food or clothing.. struggling to survive as I went through college!

Thier are those out that think that simply because you had TWO hard working parents, and they had better jbs, that they where ABLE to save for your Tution, that you mangaged to go to a private college, that the rest of us somehow have become lazy. Did you have to make a descsion at 18 in your freshman year to except 1000 dollars in gtrants vs 10000 in loans because of the color of your skin? Deciding if you could afford 5 years of collge vs four? I was told I had to take remdial clases simply becaus of the color of my skin, baring the fact I was considered when I graduated in the top 20 debaters in THE COUNTRY!

I joined the U.S NAVY and proudly served 6 years when my mother became serously ill (I watched her nearly die twice in a one week period) and was forced at the the age of 21 to decide to throw away the last three years of college for a chance for me and my mother. My mother DIED 1 MONTH BEFORE I GOT OUT!

You make statments about your hard working family, and I RESPECT THAT! My mother did what she did with a fourth grade education! With NO ONE HELPING! NO ONE GAVE HER A BREAK! Think how far you and your brothers mght have come if perhaps, maybe, we had a society that respected hard work and rewarded good students, instead of, and I qoute "You are a poor nigger from newark! If you want the funds to attend this school you have to take remideal classes!" un-qoute.

The improvements in Newark is not from Clinton. Its from my mother helping to found an organization called women in support in the million man march! Its from the community organizers that the republican party disparaged this VERY NIGHT as "doing nothing" and having "no responsibility."! Martin Luther King was a Community organizer! Malcom X was an organizer!

I am insulted, offended and made truly angry that so many of you out thier do not realize how slim the divide is! With millions losng thier homes and declaring bankruptcy, you think all those people was poor managers of thier money! You Insult MILLIONS of americans liek myself that simply ask for a chance..a break.. an opportunity that you so calmly pass off as family hard work!

Palin has an 17 year old pregnant daughter that she can support, and guide and help! How many young mothers coming from crack addicted parents with nothing have you met? I still help to coach and judge for the Newark debate league. how many children have you met where they have NO PARENTS, drugs and VIOLENCE in thier homes... You insult those that truly rose from nothing sir!

I'm not liberal! I want curbs on abortion, on crap govermental spending, on my goverment spying on me and taking my laptop when I fly! I want freedom for everyone to decide what is best for THIER FAMILY! Yet I am liberal because I feel coporations built on rasicist and sexist paridgims should have thier profits taxed! I'm liberal because I feel that the wealthest and richest among us should pay more (precentage wise) then the poorest? I'm liberal because I feel that my brothers and sisters still serving in the military, spending YEARS at a time away from thier family, should not have to do that based on lies!

If that makes me liberal sir, THEN I GLADLY TAKE THAT TITLE!! You sir, from what I feel, are no better the the slave owners from my distant ancestors past! You still feel that you are entilled to the jumpstart and head start that SO MANY DO NOT GET!

Now you now my past.. Do not tell me your from "newark" while living in neighborhoods that never considered themselves part of NEWARK and considered themselves better! You ask where I am from.. I told you...what have you done for that great city brough low because thier population does not match the skin tones and ideoliges of the rest of the nation? Newark is but a New Orleans that has being dealing with a hurricane of ignorance and indefference for 40 years! Its sad that newark never had a world reknown celebration of its own!

Im insulted..and I remain.

A Proud Concerned American, and a memeber of Newark, NJ

Anonymous said...

Just because Barak's father planted DNA all over the world and produced a slew of kids,it doesn't mean Barak has to take care of them. I guarantee you that some time or other Barak's half brother had an opportunity to do better, to clean himself up, go out and do some kind of work. I have found that even if there are no "jobs" available, there is plenty of work for a clean, honest, hard worker. Plus, for all we know, Barak Obama is trying to help this guy in some meaningful way, not just by pouring money at him, which would probably be pi$$ed away if given outright.

All_I_Can_Stands said...

8:01 said:
"Just because Barak's father planted DNA all over the world and produced a slew of kids,it doesn't mean Barak has to take care of them."

Of course he doesn't, but he is hypocritical to do nothing for his brother George while having the major theme of "I am my brother's keeper" in four of the most important speeches of his life to date.

Anonymous said...

The hypocrisy thing is an indication that, to coin and condescending yet typical left wing phrase, liberals just don't get it.

Conservatives do indeed preach stronger values that are inconsistent with unwed teenage pregnancy.

Yet they also accept the notion that no one is perfect. There is only one person who ever walked the earth who was perfect and he got killed for it.

So conservatives understand and accept the inherent weakness in man and when they falter, they seek to lift them up. Not all can be lifted - left wingers insist that falling is the natural preferred order of things: the better to prescribe a solution that brings them the power to dispense it.

Hence, for example, they talk the talk about making abortions safe, legal and rare and never lift a finger on the rare issue. Because they WANT to be able to have indiscriminate sexual relations without consequence.

Conservatives will take to their hearts those amongst them who falter and seek to help them. For a teen to find herself pregnant will most often draw support and nurture amongst conservatives.

Liberals don't understand that. They simply can't grasp the fact that conservatives don't expect or demand perfection or strict adherence as the price of love and support.

It's because if you dare stray off the liberal plantation, you are dead to them. Period.

What we have here is a massive case of projection complex going on. You expect people to be tossed out because they don't toe the line all the way down the line BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU DO.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Anonymous said...

At the age of 23 I have resigned myself to the fact that I can no longer be president. Once upon a time, I wore a bikini at the beach. Back in the day, I enjoyed wearing hoop earrings. And I, too, have worn a miniskirt. But the real problem? There are pictures to prove it. In the wake of media coverage following John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his VP, I have thrown in the towel. I have little faith the media will accept a woman who hasn't patronized their circles; a woman whose "scandalous" pictures are tame compared to my generation. Case in point: her own daughter.

I am not a feminist. I have never known gender to be an issue in my life, and I will not vote for Sarah Palin based on the fact that she is a woman. But we are currently experiencing a new kind of media era faced with a 21st century family ... one that has yet to be vetted by Washington or Meet the Press. One that has not sealed its documents in the shadows of library shelves or surrounded itself with PR aides, shaping the perfectly crafted picture. The Palin's are a new kind of American family that older generations are going to have to face – the MySpace/Facebook generation – like it or not.

Just five years ago I was a freshman in college. Few people had heard of the word "blog." Facebook was only available to a handful of universities and the ability to post pictures was well over a year away. By the end of my college career, I was taking a full credit class on blogging. Student staff at my university could be fired for "trashy" pictures posted on networking sites. This happened within four years.

This is not an excuse, but it is reality. And for the first time, a presidential campaign will have to deal with it. Bristol Palin's pregnancy has been "breaking news" for days, emphasizing this fact – the private information of our lives is now for public consumption. There is a reason for this: we've allowed it. The people who are not caught up in this personal sharing phenomenon cannot understand it just like I cannot fully comprehend what it means for things to be better than the Jimmy Carter years.

My disillusionment does not lie with the coverage of Bristol Palin's pregnancy. Sex sells in this information overload, celebrity worship culture. The media would rather cover Bristol's pregnancy than Barack Obama's ties to terrorist Bill Ayers because the people understand sex. This is why callers who can't even identify that Sarah Palin is a governor (no longer a mayor) feel that they have the authority to comment on her parenting skills. I have resigned myself to the fact that most people are this shallow.

"The most disheartening argument is that Sarah Palin should be putting her "family first." The people who buy into this line are patching up the cracks in that glass ceiling, intentionally or not. As a young woman, I worry how I will one day do what people say is possible – be a mother and have a career. Apparently this motto does not apply to Washington, and this disgusts me. It should disgust other young women who would rather pick up a US News and World Report on a news stand than an US Weekly. The fact that people wouldn't vote for Sarah Palin because they can Google an image of her in a bathing suit disgusts me. The fact that people wouldn't vote for Sarah Palin because "she has a lot of doctors' appointments to go to" disgusts me.

The liberal media is jealous ... they are scared that America might actually like a woman who isn't of their own making. And they don't know how to handle it. Instead, they resort to 1950's rhetoric and shallow coverage. I can't blame them entirely; after all, it's what the people want. Today is the day I have finally let the system get the best of me. It only took 23 years and a bank of vapid phone calls to do it.

Anonymous said...

A nice riff from Nate Silver:

"You have Mitt Romney -- one of the wealthiest men ever to run for office -- critiquing east-coast elitism, and Mike Huckabee -- who is an economic populist in disguise -- critiquing big government, and Sarah Palin -- who voters don't know one iota about -- critiquing Barack Obama's biography."

Increasingly, it seems to me, the GOP reflects some of the most ADD elements in the culture. There is no sense of accountability, no real pretense that anything is for much more than the present, and reality is constantly shaped to fit the demands of the micro-news-cycle. I thought McCain was unlike that. But he's the leader of this party, and he cannot change it overnight. My worry is: he doesn't seem to be trying any more.

Anonymous said...

Dear Christina
You don't mind me calling you Christina, so you?

I am the father of a child with Down's syndrome, and I know the unbelievable demands. Physical and intellecetual.
If you are indeed a college graduate, then do some research to get an idea of what kind of care they require.

I am not saying the parents of such a child should not work. Of course they should. But from experience, I know, we can not be away from home for more than 8 hours. Moreover, one of us has to hold a job that allows us to take the day off at a momen's notice due to frequent emergency hospitalizations.

So before you open your ignorant mouth again, for crying out loud, do some basic research, in or out of a bikini (what on earth makes you think anyone would really care except for some sex-deprived church goers?)

Anonymous said...

ST. PAUL, Minn. – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

Anonymous said...

1:17 I hear your anger and anguish but I don't get your point. If you hadn't made references to being black you sound like so many white people who had the same financial and social problems. Not called "nigger" - how about "poor white trash." And why you're angry at remedial help is beyond me. I had to work a second job to pay for tutoring help to quality for college because I'd worked after school beginning at age thirteen and didn't spend a lot of time studying. I didn't have the chance to debate. My family got no help and frankly, since my folks were familiar with the Depression, they didn't expect any. I'm really not sure what my point is. I don't know how to fix the wrongs in society. We're all "dealt a hand"
and have to play it the best we can.

Anonymous said...

Pretty funny about the hypocrisy, both sides can cloud anything, take things a certain way, or stretch enough thought and imagination into a number of different comments. But crap that O'really gets to spew to his sheeple and get away with is pretty damn funny!!

Anonymous said...


My point was that 1)No one should be denied educational opportunities based on who they are. I have heard the term "poor white trash" used with pride (even by CNN reporters live on air) The idea that someone should be pigion holed because of thier economic situation is wrong!

2) I am angry at a system that simply looks at the color of your skin and states hey, you are uneducated, here is an extra year of college. I think you would agree that I probally did not need to take re medial math and english! The extra year being forced to take classes I did not need for finical aid translated into an extra 15,000 in tution and living costs for me.. Costs that I could NOT afford. Some people simply can not Afford 5 years in college.

3) I hear so many people state that thier parents did not recieve any help, and did not expect any, and state this as if its a good thing. What is the point of paying taxes if you can expect NO help from the goverment when you need it? Are my taxes to go to paying the salaries of politicians and paying for wars I do not want or need? They are surly not going to funds to maintain infrastructure, support public schools, or even make sure that thngs like levies DONT FAIL.

You may not know how to fix the wrongs in society, and maybe nobody does. But Obama made an excelent point. YOU DONT HAVE TO EXCEPT THINGS AS THE WAY THEY ARE! You should not live a life where you are like well I was born poor, and I guess I can expect my goverment to not even try to provide a situation where I can rise above poverty or near poverty. I guess you believe that its okay that our goverment provides tax breaks and stipends to the richest companies and people, while demanding YOU pay more.

The question is simple.. Are we merely slaves to the goverment, here to serve its whim? Or is the exact opposite is true, that its the goverments responsibility to do its best to provide a open society that tries to bring out the best in the majority of its citizen?

Do you want a 1984 society, or the one laid forth in the decleration of independece?

Anonymous said...

Another hypocritical point. The McCain team is saying that Palin has more Executive experience than Obama. I thought she was running against Biden and it also means that she has more Executive experience than McCain. Than by their own logic Palin should be on the top of the ticket.

I'm from NJ and corruption did not disappear while the state was lead by Republican. So what's the point? The Bush administration is the most corrupt of the history of the country.

Anonymous said...

The hypocrisy runs both ways. Democrats still have William "Cold Cash" Jefferson, Ted "Mary Jo Kopechne" Kennedy, Robert "KKK" Byrd, Dirty Harry Reid, Nancy "Samoa Tuna" Pelosi, Barack "God Damn America" Obama, and many others in their ranks.