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Tuesday, October 25, 2005
Gore Will Run, His Backers Say
Forget that half-hearted declaration Al Gore gave at an economic forum in Stockholm, Sweden two weeks ago about having "absolutely no plans and no expectations of ever being a candidate again." According to friends, family and political advocates, Gore's playing it coy and has every intention of entering the race. "I'm not discouraged at all by what he said," said one of the Gore backers who's recently spoken with US News & World Report. "He doesn't want to be embarrassed and he won't just slowly tip-toe into the race. He wants the whole thing set up for him and that will be easy to do."
Gore's supporters cite his strong, early anti-war stance and his concern over environmental issues, as well as his successful economic track-record and the fact that he won the popular vote in 2000. Many believe he won the Electoral College and the thus the presidency but had it stolen by the Florida GOP and the U.S. Supreme Court.
His advocates say Gore could get a groundswell of support from high-tech, media and corporate donors.
The DRAFT AL GORE PETITION started this past weekend has almost 1200 signatures*.
*AOL users: open in MSN Internet Explorer (http://new.petitiononline.com/AG2008/petition.html)
if signature page fails)
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If Gore, Hillary and Kerry are in the primary maybe the primary won't be decided by the first 2-3 states like it usually is. That is so boring. I wish the US would wake up and realize that the primary is almost more important than the general election. Too often after the primary it is a choice between two duds. I think the US is usually asleep at the wheel during primaries, and I wish some creative genius would come up with a way to liven it up.
Is there a link to an article to corroborate this unformation (and darned if these socalled friends always also remain "nameless". I have contacted his office and was told no such thing that he was "playing coy," as was reported here in a "public" newspaper. So where did this information really come from?) Or is someone just making it up to get petition signatures? Because you see, there are some Gore supporters out here who are tired of the political GAMES played by those who have other motives to what they are doing.
Now, if you have CREDIBLE sources for this information you just posted here, please post that too. Otherwise, can you tell me why you are trying to pump people up so early when you have no more knowledge about this than the rest of us? And where were you in 2004? You say he was denied the Presidency by electoral vote ( which is true and which our PAC (http://www.patriotsforgore.com) had been trying to remedy with no help from anyone) yet you waited THIS LONG to do something about it? Is it because you think it will be "easier" to get Gore in now because you were a part of allowing Bush to trash this country first by settling in 2004 for the Party pick?
So you see, if you supported and voted for John Kerry in 2004 and didn't even give justice for 2000 a thought, please excuse me while I think this current attempt lacks conviction and true support for the man.
I don't know what Al Gore will do in 2008 and I doubt he truly knows either. I would strongly support his candidacy if he should run, and happy to know that he has many supporters. I would rather that his supporters don't play mind games with him and say he means one thing while claiming something else. It doesn't do him, or the cause, any good. I'd rather take him at his word but give him the opportunity to change his mind.
Maybe Al has taken up playing poker and knows how to keep a poker face even when you know you hold all the cards.
In politics a week is like a year and a year is like an eternity. Much can and will happen between now and 2008 but rest assured anyone one thinking of running in 2008 had better NOT been for the war. So do the math on who voted for it and who was against it and you have your man. Sorry Hillary, you blew being the first female president by sucking up to Bush's war scam.
PATRIOTADMIN: It always astounds us when Democrats attack other Democrats rather than go after the real enemy. It's probably why we keep losing elections. I'm sorry you don't share our enthusiam for Gore, but the inalienable right to disagree is what makes for a great Democracy. We also don't get too bogged down in what happened five years ago as it relates to who we like for '08. Times change. People change. And...perhaps you can use some of that obvious passion you have to help get Democrats back in the House, Senate and White House.
Gore is THE MAN. And this is not some nostalgic reference to 2000; he is the one with experience, the committment, the brains and the passion. Yeah, I said PASSION. If you have been watching and listening the past 4 yrs, then you know what I'm saying. If you haven't, maybe you should.
Gore-Dean in '08
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...GORE-DEAN in 08!
I can only hope for this white sterotypical collection of biggots to run!
Can someone in the Dem party please find someone with convictions, who is not afraid to say that security of the nation is first, and that daycares are not worth anything if we have people blowing them up. Then can we get someone who actually understands economics and didn't invent the internet dot-bomb bubble that crushed millions of peoples 401ks, and retirement funds, or are we all still believing that was the republicans (See Bernie Ebbers of Clinton Gore fame and knuckleheads like John Corzine who paid 60m of his own money to buy a job that pays less than 250k. and is now buying a governors seat).
Until Dems find someone with a spine like Evan Bye, or some other Dem who actually isn't held hostage by the kooks of this party we are doomed. For all the blustery talk of getting Bush, why don't we win, because you might not agree with what they stand for, but they stand for something, instead of standing for conitnuing the cycle of stupid decisions that Dems are making!
patriotadmin, Andy is right, only the Republicans are supposed to eat their young. Democrats are supposed to stick together through thin and thin!
I think Tom Daschle could be a powerful underdog.
He has a new PAC:
I'm glad to see he's remained active since the loss of his Senate seat. I always liked him.
I would like to see Gore claim his Presidency as an Independant. What have the Democrats done for him?
Can you imagine having a president who had decency, and brains, again? It might make me change my plans to move to New Zealand.
This would be a blessing to America if Al Gore decides to jump in. He would have my support...completely. Imagine an administration with brains and decency...I hope that he is aware of the "current" that is in the air aabout his possibilities....
PLEASE RUN AL!!!
I think Gore running as an independent in '08 is a great idea. He could pull a lot more votes away from the Dems than Nader.
Many thanks for your draft Gore petition. Patriotadmin sounds like a shill for the anti Gore, don't fight back DLC. It's going to be an interesting several years watching what happens. There's no one out there who understands how to get our country out of this terrible mess t's now in. We mst never forget what happened in 2000. What a different place our country and the world would now be had all of the uncounted votes been counted in 2000 as Florida law clearly required
Bill Richardson has got more of a chance than any of the insiders mentioned here. 2004, all we had was insiders in serious contention (Gephart, Kerry). We need some one new, firey like Dean, but articulate. No more congressmen. Gives us someone with executive experiance.
The only way the democratic party can win is to get an overwhelming majority of the votes in a majority of states. Republicans own the voting machines and have corrupted the Boards of Election in states beyond Ohio. Only if the voting public KNOWS the vote was incorrectly recorded and counted will the the republican machine not prevail. In my mind, opposition to this war from day 1 is the most important qualification for a candidate. Intelligent foreign diplomacy is the second. Gore fits. He may have lacked the imagination to understand the ramifications of his naive trust in American jurisprudence in '99, but he caught on and sees this cabal for what they are. The Progressive Caucus and the Black Caucus should be the pool for the VP choice. Symbols with substance can help reclaim our national integrity.
Gore-Dean, if the Dems need known names.
Gore-Schwietzer, if Dean is a little risky.
Schwietzer-Richardson, if the Dems feel like a gamble.
Time will tell. I think Daschle is a terrible idea.
He's like a flaccid weaner.
Gore just needed a little Zest, which he has slowly acquired, growing a beard and starting a progressive tv station.
I still like Dean myself. I don't even care about his "scream." He's not corporate owned, and he can stand on his own two feet, something Democrats seem incapable of most of the time.
Also - ALL I CAN STAND - Why would Gore want to pull votes away from the Dems??? Is this some sort of progressive humor?
lawson, you may be new here. I'm the token republican on this site. :)
I'll vote for Gore. He is an expert on the environment and he was against the war. He gave a speech before the the Iraq War and totally called it." Iraq will be the new breading ground for terrorists"r I trust him. Kucinich is aslo trustworthy, he was against the war. All others who were for the war are OUT.
Don't overlook Kucinich - he had more good stuff on his agenda than almost anyone else. How about Gore (for seasoned, experience, vision, track record) and Kucinich (for new ideas, enthusiasm, ability to appeal to a different slice of people)?
My votes for John Conyers on the ticket... he's a fighter... a realist and on top of the criminal elections we have been having. Please remember you don't have a chance if we have rigged elections. There rigged now.
But I don't want Gore! I want Conyers!
I'm with Brigitte - Kucinich -and Conyers for VP - or the other way around. They're the only ones with balls. Kerry is a walking zombie, Kennedy is walking rhetoric and Gore is still the plastic Ken Doll he was in the first election. New blood. That's what we need.
Kucinich and Conyers.
I'm not attacking Democrats, I asked you valid questons. I DID play along in 2004 and held my nose to vote for Kerry, and look
what we got! I have also been out here fighting the Bush Republicans for years and I also have plenty of enthusiasm about Gore which is whay I still support HIM whil eit seems all you and others about is the White House. Why aren't you then working harder for election reform in this country? do you truly believe we will EVER see a good man like Gore as president with THIS system in place?
At this time I also prefer to take Mr. Gore at his word and realize he has plenty of time to change his mind. And if he doesn't run, I will still support his endeavors. Will you? Would you even report on anything else he is currently doing out here? I don't see any entries about his tv station, or his specches here etc. So don't tell me I don't have enthusiasm for him.
As someone who has been a supporter of his for many years whether he ran for office for not, and also as someone who has seen what draft movements are like from behind the scenes,I then have every right to also question the motives of people who I didn't see out here in 2004 when it was necessary to fight the DLC who more than likely pushed him out. I think it is then very relevant to ask you where you were. But hey, if you don't want to answer that question, believe me, I totally understand.
Oh, and one more thing... Not standing up for the right man over the party pick was why we lost in 2004. Not having any vision or guts was why we lost in 2004. Your standing with the Iraq War voting candidate party pick to not make waves, was why we lost in 2004, and why we will continue losing elections unless Democrats grow a spine.
I'm tired of being told that I am not in unity with other Democrats simply for asking where you all were in 2004 when we needed to stand up for this country. I would also then dare to say that based on what has transpired in that year, I have every right to be a bit uspet at where we stand now, based on what we didn't do then.
And to the anonymous one up there who dared to say I was shrill and sounded like the DLC just because I won't support a freeped petition THREE YEARS before the election, you sound like the same person who keeps spouting off about the DLC on my forum but did NOTHING to fight them when it should have happened. Perhaps when you post next, you can tell us all what YOU have done to make this country a better place instead of trashing others who did stand by this man through it all. I'm sure that would make for interesting reading.
Funny, PatriotAdmin attacks someone for not getting involved, and then attacks them for starting a petition and getting involved! Take a chill pill, dude. This ain't a "My support of Gore is more valid than yours" contest. Frankly, I think we lost because of folks like you who forget who the enemy is and waste precious time, mental energy and money fighting other Democrats.
I cannot envision anyone else being so "electable" as these two. They represent everything liberal and progressive.
Actually anonynmous (at least I have the guts to come on here as who Iam), we lost because of people who didn't stand up for the constitution five years ago. I was out here doing that, were you? Or were you one of those telling people like me to "get over it?" I think I then have every right to my opinion here regarding those who always sign petitions and leave it at that. They think signing something is all the work they have to do. And without serious and real election reform in this country and a complete overhaul of the status quo that picks our candidates and tells them what to say, this is only a petition with nothing else behind it.
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